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Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

Posted on: December 6, 2011 9:23 pm
Edited on: December 7, 2011 1:56 am
DALLAS -- The Marlins spent an extraordinary amount of time Tuesday afternoon and evening wooing free agent slugger Albert Pujols and appeared to be thundering toward their finish line as darkness enveloped Dallas on a cold Tuesday night.

Whether it is also Pujols' finish line remains to be seen.

The Marlins pushed very, very hard through the night Tuesday to finish a Pujols deal with a 10-year offer, according to sources, worth in excess of $200 million. Closing in on 1 a.m. CDT, sources said the Marlins reached a point where there would be no immediate answer, and they would resume discussions with the Pujols Camp on Wednesday.

Earlier Tuesday, St. Louis general manager John Mozeliak said that the Cardinals presented the slugger with a new offer, their first since last February when Pujols rejected a reported nine-year offer worth a reported $195 million.

Meantime, USAToday's Bob Nightengale reported an unidentified team made a third offer of at least 10 years in what is becoming the most expensive bidding war in baseball history.

Sources with knowledge of the talks said that they expected the Pujols camp to let things play out a little longer.

That strategy did not mesh with what the Fish wanted Tuesday, and they may have to make a decision as a result. As owner Jeffrey Loria canceled dinner plans Tuesday to remain in the Hilton Anatole and try to knock off a deal for the iconic slugger, the Marlins remained players on free agent pitchers Mark Buehrle and C.J. Wilson.

Marlins officials emerged from an elevator after what appeared to have been a long meeting with Dan Lozano, Pujols' agent, shortly after 8 p.m. Tuesday. But club president David Samson repeatedly told reporters, "Nothing to report."

The Marlins want an answer from Pujols sooner rather than later -- they pushed for an answer Tuesday night -- so they can move on to one of those other options if they can't get him. They also want an answer from Pujols soon because of growing concern that they are being used as leverage to jack up the Cardinals' bid.

Bottom line: The Marlins badly want Pujols, but they do now want to lose out on other free agent options if Pujols is a rigged game and it's a fait accompli that he's returning to St. Louis. Whether or not the Marlins sign Pujols, they still want to improve their starting pitching. Without Pujols, they'll look to the free agent market. If they add Pujols, they will look to trade current first baseman Gaby Sanchez for pitching.

Mozeliak did not specify the Cards' new offer to Pujols either in years or dollars. When asked by St. Louis reporters in whose court the ball is in, Mozeliak replied, "Theirs."

"I suspect [a response] is going to come quickly," Mozeliak told St. Louis reporters. "That would have to come from that camp. ... In this situation, we're participants. I don't think we're dictating anything."

The Marlins believed that their offer had to be higher than that of the Cardinals to combat what one source termed the "statue effect." Meaning, if Pujols finished his career in St. Louis, the next step will be that the club and city will erect a statue of him next to the one of Hall of Famer Stan Musial outside of Busch Stadium.

Consequently, the Marlins have put together what sources call a "creative" offer, one that is so complicated that Loria and other Marlins executives met with Dan Haslem of the Commissioner's Office late Tuesday afternoon to review parts of it and, apparently, make sure it is in line with baseball rules and the new Collective Bargaining Agreement.

"Jeffrey is an art dealer. He's accustomed to obtaining special works of art," one National League executive said Tuesday night. "Maybe this is another special work of art."

Surely, they would tell you that Pujols is exactly that in St. Louis.

Whether he'll be on permanent loan anytime soon at the Marlins' posh new baseball museum in Miami is the subject that continues to dominate these meetings.

Since: Nov 30, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 2:28 pm

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

If the marlins get albert pujols, watch out nl east.

Since: Jul 30, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 1:03 pm

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

Seems that even an offer of the same number of years at the same pay would net him more in FL. I believe there is no state taxes there, so he is looking at about 7% more in the bank there.  Of course that is in just 81 home games. He would pay more in taxes for the additional trips to NY due to divisional games, and, make no is all about money or he would not be going through this exercise.

Since: Sep 18, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 12:06 pm

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

The whole world is waiting for him to sign, then the rest of the pieces of free agency can fall. SIGN ALREADY MAN!

Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 12:00 pm

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

The Marlins need to drop out of the Pujols bidding.  G Sanchez is a decent 1B and will continue to improve.  With the 200 million they would save they can have both CJ and Burhele. At that point they can send under acheiving Nolasco and Volstad packing and acquire additional help whether it is off the bench or in the bullpen

Since: Jun 8, 2010
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:42 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

Albert Pujos is waist-deep in the community with his wife so I still refuse to believe the Marlins have an inside track against the Cardinals.  The money and contract are very close, according to ESPN, so Albert will be wise and stay in St. Louis. 

Since: Oct 12, 2009
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:36 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

If the Marlins want to spend millions on a hunch, let them. It's their money, but it's foolish. By now baseball should have found out that some guys wiht age and current injuries start declining statistically. Pujols will be the next and millions will be lost on developing young talent. They get a billion dollar stadium built, thanks to tax payers, and then go on a spending spree like there is no tomorrow. The newness will wear off and so will the crowds after a year. Spend smart, not foolish these days. People may not come later.

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: December 7, 2011 11:12 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

The Marlins absolutely should have gone in with a deadline. Pujols' heart is in staying with St. Louis. I would never let myself get leveraged. Give him the offer and tell him it expires on Wednesday at 5PM- period.
As to Albert's value, tell me, what are the value of the World Championships he has delivered to their door? They are absolute fools to have let this drag on. He should have been signed in the spring of last year. This guy has been worth the world for the Cards, but now, they've played him well, got the most value from him and still act as if they don't want to pony up. Tells me a lot about that organization. They are smart businessmen, but as a player, you know they will use you.

Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: December 7, 2011 10:50 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

There is a tendency here to hone in on the last years of a contract rather than to see a contract as a whole.

I think everyone agrees that the next 5 years are the key for Pujols. So the key is to offer a contract that guarantees those 5 years of output. If that means offering a 10 year deal purely to buy the next 5 years, then who cares.

Value Pujols for his remaining years, and then decide what it is worth. How a team chooses to pay the cash is largely irrelevant. Although I have to say that I think Albert is special and will not be a bust in late contract years.

Personally I think (well actually I hope, for the integrity of baseball) that he stays with St Louis his entire career, is paid good money, and breaks a lot of records. Baseball needs a clean winner (and how I don't hope that comment comes back to haunt me, which I genuinely think it will not).     &nbs

Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: December 7, 2011 10:50 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

Buehrle is no ace. They are better off dealing Gaby Sanchez for Niemann, who was the top AL pitcher in 2010 up until the All-star break. He will cost 10 million less than mark. The Marlins need another pitcher like Josh Johnson. Buerhle has been in the bigs for a long time now and has never had an era under 3.50 and his K/9 ratio is barely above league average.  The Marlins will attract fans by bringing in big name players like Bell, Reyes, and Pujols.  No one will be attracted to the stadium because of buehrle or wilson. Reyes and Pujols will attract fans.

Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: December 7, 2011 10:46 am

Marlins pushing hard on Pujols, want answer soon

Tdaison, how are you a victum because a player is trying to get the most wage for his time? Your rant has a punish mesage for doing that and for that I would say the sick person is the one who thinks that way.

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