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Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

Posted on: January 13, 2012 9:40 pm
 
Their winter hibernation just ended. And just like that, the New York Yankees made themselves into AL East favorites.

Adding Michael Pineda from Seattle has all the earmarks of acquiring a young CC Sabathia or, ahem, Felix Hernandez -- the ace the Mariners wouldn't trade.

Adding Hiroki Kuroda on a one-year, $10 million deal adds the kind of rotation depth they could only dream of last summer -- and, presumably, a right-hander with more staying power than Bartolo Colon had.

"Wow," one scout said Friday night. "They've been laying in the weeds. They hadn't done anything."

Yes. Hadn't.

Though the Yankees gave up a consensus future star in young slugger-to-be Jesus Montero, exactly the kind of young bat the Mariners need and a great move for them, Pineda and Kuroda join CC Sabathia, Ivan Nova, Phil Hughes, A.J. Burnett and maybe even Freddy Garcia in giving the Yankees the talent, depth and clout their rotation needs to take them deep into October.

Just a few days after meeting with the representatives for free agent Edwin Jackson, the Yankees became the talk of the industry on what had been a slow Friday night with their stealth move for Pineda, who, at 22, already is within sight of becoming an ace.

"He's got that kind of stuff," a scout who spent part of last summer focusing on AL West clubs said Friday night. "If you wanted to be conservative, he's a No. 2. He's got velocity, he came up with a slider that got better and better last year and he throws strikes. When he gives up a home run or a hard-hit ball, it does not chase him out of the strike zone.

"He's got that rare combination of stuff and control. He's young, he's not afraid, he's big, he's still growing and he's got makeup. He's a prize.

"And the Yankees will have, what, five years of control over him? He's the kind of guy you build around. Holy cow."

The Mariners were worried about rushing him too quickly last summer when they installed him into their rotation coming out of spring training. He pretty much immediately showed them, no sweat.

By season's end, over 28 starts, he struck out 173 hitters while walking just 55 over 171 innings. His average fastball was clocked at 94.7 m.p.h., according to FanGraphs.

What's notable about that? The fastballs of only three other AL starters checked in higher: Texas' Alexi Ogando, Detroit's Justin Verlander and Tampa Bay's David Price.

Kuroda? He turns 37 next month. But he gave the Dodgers 202 innings in 2011, going 13-16 with a 3.07 ERA. He's a competitor with fierce pride.

"Solid No. 3," the scout said. "He throws strikes, he's got good stuff, a crisp fastball that's deceptive and he throws harder than people think. He's at 90 to 94 with sink down in the zone, a crisp breaking ball and a good split.

"He's got out pitches. I'd love to have Kuroda."

Now the Yankees do. And Pineda. And Sabathia and Nova and Hughes and Burnett. ...

And as they search for a hitter, for now, they've still got 6-8 right-hander Dellin Betances and lefty Manny Banuelos, who opened many eyes last spring.

"Hanging onto Betances and Banuelos [and with Pineda on board], they've got three young-gun studs who should pitch for them for a long time," the scout said. "And Nova's not that old and Hughes isn't that old.

"They've got the makings of a young, under-control staff."

Yeah, sure, why not? On a night on which the Yankees proved they're not sleeping through the winter, why not add to their opponents' misery just a little bit more?
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brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 8:42 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 16, 2012 8:38 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

wAs for the Yankees spending should Yankee fans feel sorry.And the Phillies and sox spend alot of  too.As for Cashman he does a good job,better than Theo did with the Sox,so why should he not have a job.I notice you in EVERY Yankee thread and that is fine,I think people should be able to go where they want Certain Tiger fans and you know who I am talking about cry when I go to the Tigers blogs.Speaking of the Tigers did you see they let Zumeya go to a DIVision rival,for next to nothing.Cashman whould never let that happen. The Tigers made the Playoffs last year so I am guessing they think they have a good team because everyone else is making trades and FA pickups yet the Tigers have done nothing.

Brian, you're a chump.  If the Tigers would have signed Zumaya you would have told us it was a stupid move, you would have called Zumaya washed up.  But because the Tigers don't sign him you suddenly believe Zumaya is still a good pitcher... that's funny.

And aside from you, there aren't many people on CBS that don't believe the Tigers have a good baseball team.  I've ready MANY Yankee fans admit the Tigers have a good team... but not you.  Because the truth is, you are in your own world man.... you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

As for your argument that the Tigers play in a bad division, keep something in mind.  The Tigers were 4 games above .500 against teams in the A.L East... The Yankees were 8 above against the East, Boston was 4 above and Tampa was 5 games above.. not much difference.  Against the Central the Tigers won 70 percent of their games, the Yankees won about 60 percent against the Central.  Boston and Tampa were 4 and 5 games above .500 against the central.   So look up some numbers before you type your nonesense.

And don't worry, it's only January man.  The Tigers will make a couple moves, there is no hurry.  They are one of 6 teams in the race for Cespedes, experts say it's Detroit and Florida battling it out for a pretty talented kid.  They are looking at Oswalt, Garza, and a couple others.  Once again, no hurry Brian.  Pennants aren't won in January....

The only team in MLB that on paper is for certain a much better team then last year is the Angels.  They signed Pujols and C.J Wilson, two very nice pickups.   Nobody else has done anything they can be sure is automatically making their team better... 


brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 7:56 pm
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Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: January 16, 2012 7:38 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

Sorry left one thing out -- Pineda has the potential to be special, it'll be up to the Yankees to make sure they get that out of him.  He has a nice repetoire of pitches.  Will be interesting to see how he does going from Seattle to the Big Apple.



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: January 16, 2012 7:36 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

Brian,

I got off topic -- Meant to say -- Pineda is a great pickup by NY.  He should be able to help them out tremendously.  He isn't better than Fister though.  He doesn't need to be great in NY, as long as he keeps an ERA under 4.00, he will win alot of games with that offense behind him.

I love this deal by NY. 



Since: May 29, 2009
Posted on: January 16, 2012 7:34 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

Would rather have Pineda than Fister.Didn't Fiaster get figures out in the PLAYOFFS when his ERA was over 5.50.Another thing why are you even here TROLLING Yankee threads.Th Yankee are the most successful organazation in all fo sports.And The Yankees lost in the alds and realized they needed more Pitching and they went out and got Pineda and Kuroda.WHAT HAVE THE TIGERS DONE.Exactly nothing.So it will be another season without a WORLD Series for the Tigers.Too poor to get good players.You guys have 2 players that could play for the Yankees that is it.
Brian,

You do know that last year was only Fister's 2nd full year in the MLB -- I would say finishing 4th in the AL in ERA and 6th in the AL in WHIP makes him one of best kept secrets in all of baseball.

Fister's Playoff era wasn't 5.50 either.  If you remember -- he was the guy who pitched game 5 against the Yankees and gave up 1 run in 5 innings.  He is also the guy who pitched game 3 against the Rangers and went 7 1/3 and gave up 2 runs.  He got the win in both of those games.  So if teams figured him out -- NY and Texas -- two of the best lineups in all of baseball didn't do a good job putting runs up against him.

And when are you going to stop with the talk about other teams not spending money -- The only team who can spend money like the Yankees is...........the Yankees.  I broke it down for you in that other thread and then you never responded.  If every team could spend like the Yankees AND still make a profit, they would.  In the end -- baseball is a business and the owners do it to make a profit.  There is a reason why the Yankee franchise is worth 1.6 billion.  They basically have a license to print money.  From the YES network - to the highest ticket prices in the MLB - to the largest market in the US.  Yankees are making money hand over fist, so they can afford to go out and get whoever they want.

THAT is why I ask the question -- how does Cashman still have a job?!?!  Gene Michael was the guy repsonsible for putting together the team Cashman inherited that won all the championships.  The fact NY has 1 title in 11 years is mind boggling when Cashman has basically a blank check to go after whoever he wants.  If NY had a stud GM -- they would unstoppable. 


brian8ball
Since: Aug 3, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 6:50 pm
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Since: May 12, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 6:39 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

I watched Pineda pitch a lot last year. He was great at home and on the road, not so much. Late in the year he was not sharp on the road. He is young, but is he ready for Yankee press corps? Nope.  You have to give him some room, or he could turn into a head case.

Montero can hit but the real question is can he be a major league catcher. That is what seattle is banking on. His bat is good, but Safeco is a big park. I like the trade for both teams. But Seattle got what it needed, the yanks well what ever they need they just buy. 



Since: Jun 16, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 4:17 pm
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

Holy crap!  Didn't see this coming. but it's awesome!



Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2012 9:04 am
 

Savvy Yankees hit home run with Pineda, Kuroda

PINEDA!!!!!!!!!!


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