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Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

Posted on: February 24, 2012 12:01 pm
 
PHOENIX, Ariz. -- As Ryan Braun reported to camp on Friday, Brewers player representative Chris Narveson said there have been issues with drug testing before in Milwaukee.

Specifically, with one of his own tests shortly after last summer's All-Star Game.

"Mine was more of a failure to communicate that I was getting tested," Narveson said Friday morning. "You're walking out the door in your street clothes an hour-and-a-half after the game and they come up to you and say, 'We forgot to tell you, you're getting tested.

"Errors like that can't happen."

Narveson added: "It's interesting, that's two instances for us with the same group of guys testing. .... One time can be an aberration."

The pitchers said that after he was collared late for testing when leaving the ballpark after already dressing, that they tightened things up "and tried to make sure they notified us" more promptly after a game.

Still, Narveson said the players firmly support drug testing. They just want things done right.

"I don't think there are flaws in the system," Narveson said. "If they follow protocol the whole way, I don't think we have an issue."

But he pointed out that the testers did not follow protocol with him. And, of course, a large part of Braun's dispute was that his specimen sat at the tester's home for more than 48 hours before being shipped where it was supposed to go.

"Ryan's sample sat for 48 hours," Narveson said. "Anybody can do anything [to] it."

Narveson and several Brewers also sharply criticized the system for allowing a leak in the first place. News of Braun testing positive for synthetic testosterone leaked to ESPN in December.

"Now that we look back, if this didn't get out, nobody hears about it," Narveson said. "Braun comes in today and there's four or five reporters saying, 'How was your off-season?'"
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Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2012 2:37 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

I am a big time Phillies fan too, and I understand why a Phils fan would look at Braun and see the worst because he knocks the stuffing out of us.  But having said that, who are the people who knew all along that Braun was taking something?  I've heard rumors swirling about regarding Bautista, but I have never heard of anything about Braun.  Indeed, part of what made this story so fantastic was that it WAS Braun...someone considered beyond reproach.  There's just no way this guy was juicing.  He is a thin, fast, easy-going player, not a moody, rage-filled, full-faced-neck-monster like all of the other steroid boys of summer.  Don't be a hater man.



Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2012 2:30 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

I can only imagine what the world would be like if Internet commenters ran it. Someone gets arrested on murder charges and are put to death without a trial because "they must be guilty." I could accuse any of you of something horrible and you would be immediately guilty without the right to defend yourself. Is that what everyone wants?



Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2012 2:29 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

The fact that the specimen sat in someone's home for 48 hours finally makes some sense in terms of what happened.  When this was initially reported, or leaked, we knew then that Braun's sample was not just positive for steroids, it was outrageously, historically high...that nothing like his test had ever been recorded before.  That struck me as really odd, because unlike all of the obvious steroid boys of summer, where there were clear and undeniable body changes and psychological changes with some, Braun showed none of it.  There was never any roid rage with this guy.  He was laughing when he tripped around third instead of ripping someone's head off.  And he is thin and fast...someone with levels several degrees higher than anyone in history just would not act or look like Brain does.  No way.

Now that I know the sample was around for 2 days in an unsecured place...of course someone tampered with it.  That's not just a breach of protocol...it is a breach of protocol followed by a medically oddity.  I'm not sure if laws were broken here, but I imagine they have been, and I hope we have not heard the end of it.  Someone should do a perp walk for this one.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2012 2:26 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

If you did a test for a DUI and the cop took the sample home for a couple of days instead of to the lab, and the results were not what you expected would you be ok with that?


These people are professionals who did not do their job correctly.  It's pretty simple.  Bonds, Clemens, and Palmeiro did not have  situation where a tester did not follow procedure.  Those procedures are in place to ensure accurate results.  If they are not followed they put the accuracy of those results at risk.  


That does not mean that Braun didn't get away with one, but you can't know one way or the other.  If the testing company did its job correctly you would know, but you don't.  And if you don't know you can't suspend him for it.     



Since: Dec 27, 2010
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:52 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

Blah Bah Blah.......... At what point do we quit making excuses for these guys. Regardless of whetherthe sample sat it was a positive test. 20 times the normal testorene level. Sitting did not alter the result. Initially Braun did not Dispute test just reason for positive result. Rumor was meds for herpes and he was embarrased. Now he is exonerated?

These tests are pretty complex and it sitting around does not make it test positive. Do the Braun apologists think the guy altered it? Do the Braun apologists think Bonds was innocent? Clemens, Palmeiro? LANCE? The complaint from Narveson was wow, I am walking out of the clubhouse and the guy wants urine. That is the complaint? In the real world random means random. Apparently not in Milwaukee. As a kid we were told cheaters never prosper. My parents did not take into consideration the modern ballplayer and his apologists. Cheaters are cheaters. Nothing more nothing less. And Pete Rose can't be in the HOF. Something wrong with this picture    &nbs
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Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:52 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

The other two players are probably not BIG names, like an All Star or MVP.  The collector is probably a Reds fan!



Since: Oct 18, 2011
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:49 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

I, for one, was extremely happy when the suspension was not upheld.  I hope for Braun's sake that he is able to go out and have a great season.  Of course if he doesn't produce, people will probably point to the lack of steroids as their reason.  When in fact the absence of Prince in the lineup could also be a hinderence.  Nothing against Ramirez, but he doesn't strike the same fear in people as Prince does.

What interested me in the process that I heard on the radio today was that Braun offered to take a DNA test to ensure that the sample was in fact his.  The MLB said no.  WHY?  Do they also have thier doubts that would also lead to future criticism of the testing process?  do they agree that the technician screwed up?  And how do such stories leak to the media?  Speaking on the condition of anonymity...BLAH.  Why wouldn't they put their name to the leak, would they lose their cushy jobs?  Did they accept something in return for the information?

Anyways, here's one guy wishing Braun goes out and has another MVP season with no future links to steroids.



Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:48 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

Braun asked to compare his DNA to DNA in the high testosterone sample to prove it wasn't him.  MLB said no.  That fact was in the evidentiary report the arbitrator used to decide Braun's innocence.   



Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:48 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

The fact that the sample tested 3 times higher than any other of 10's of thousands of samples sends up red flags to me. Then you find out it was kept at someones house for 24 hours, tells me it was definately tampered with. MLB needs to own up to their failures!!!



Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: February 24, 2012 1:47 pm
 

Brewers player rep: Testing problems in Milwaukee

if MLB knew he tested positive ( maybe) and on Oct 19th notified him about what they found why didn't they test him again right away.....
They did. Braun demanded a re-test on the spot when they told him.


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