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Monday's trade talk

Posted on: July 28, 2008 8:02 pm
Edited on: July 28, 2008 11:17 pm

Three days until the July 31 trade deadline, and it was mostly quiet on the talking front on Monday.

The latest:

Jarrod Washburn: The New York Yankees still have not acquired the Seattle left-hander, and though it still could happen, one source close to the talks said Monday that the Yankees appeared to veer off in other directions in their search for pitching. Talks between the Yankees and Mariners, for now, have "cooled", according to the source.

Though the Yankees would agree to pick up the remaining $14 million or so owed Washburn this year and next, it would be with the understanding that Seattle would receive only a lower-level prospect in return for Washburn. The Mariners so far have been demanding an upper-level prospect, along the lines of an Ian Kennedy. The Yankees, who don't have any upper-level pitching prospects aside from Kennedy and Phil Hughes, view that as exorbitant -- especially when they would pick up the salary.

The Mariners would like to deal Washburn -- and outfielder Raul Ibanez (the Mets, perhaps) -- but interim general manager Lee Pelekoudas is being very deliberate. His next trade will be his first, and with his job on the line, he knows first impressions are crucial.

Mark Teixeira: The Braves met internally Monday, sized up their situation, and immediately decided, it's ugly. Then they put word out to rivals that they intend to trade Teixeira.

Much as the Braves despise giving up, the decision essentially was made for them. They had to place both Chipper Jones and pitcher Tim Hudson on the disabled list, they were beaten by Philadelphia on Saturday and Sunday despite scoring 19 runs ... it's over in Atlanta.

Now, shopping and actually trading, are two different things. But the Braves appear determined, and Teixeira immediately becomes the plum prize this week. Arizona already has moved into the favorite's position, especially if the Diamondbacks do agree to move Chad Tracy and a prospect.

Most difficult thing for Atlanta will be playing multiple teams against each other because, among contenders, there isn't a lot of need for a first baseman. The Mets' Carlos Delgado is playing better, the Angels are happy with Casey Kotchman, Boston has Kevin Youklis and David Ortiz, the Dodgers have James Loney, the list goes on.

Manny Ramirez: Come on. Boston general manager Theo Epstein has tried hard in past off-seasons to deal Ramirez, with no luck. If he couldn't do it over three months, is it realistic that he does it in three days? This is a team with its sights set on another World Series win -- not only can precious few teams afford Manny, but Boston is going to need pieces in return that will be at least the equal to Ramirez in lineup production.

The Red Sox may be tired of him, but they can't afford to get worse on the fly.

Gerald Laird: Texas has received several inquiries -- catchers are hard to find -- but the asking price remains high. Florida continues to troll for another catcher, and the Marlins' need has deepened in the past several hours given Matt Treanor's hip condition. Treanor is scheduled to see a hip specialist, and the Marlins are bracing for bad news.

They like Laird, but Texas general manager Jon Daniels right now is asking for a top-level pitching prospect in return. So far, that's a no go for the Marlins and others.

Greg Maddux: San Diego would like to trade both him and outfielder Brian Giles, according to sources, because the Padres right now are interested in dumping salary. So far, however, the silence on the other end of the telephone is deafening. There isn't much interest in either player.

Maddux has no-trade powers and has pitched far better than his record indicates, but his preference is to pitch for a West Coast team. The Angels are set -- odds are Maddux wouldn't approve a trade to an AL club anyway -- and the Dodgers and Diamondbacks are the only other two western clubs in contention. And they each have other needs.


Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 6:01 pm

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"the are happy with "

Good call Miller! Spot on, as always.

Kotchman and prospects traded to Braves for Teixeira.

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 5:27 pm

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No doubt the Rangers are fun to watch, but the "promising pitchers" let us fans down year in and year out. But after last year's trading deadline they really got stronger.

Matt Harrison-Neftali Perez-Eric Hurley-Kason Gabbard-Brandon McCarthy-Thomas Diamond

Those are 6 really solid young pitchers that the Rangers now have if they can ever get them all healthy (and Padilla could be a veteran force for a few more years). Diamond has been seemingly overhyped for the past three years, though, and I think most people have given up on him, so he could be the next one out the door.

The Rangers received Adam Eaton, Akinori Otsuka  for Adrian Gonzalez, Termel Sledge and Chris Young. Sledge was acquired along with Brad Wilkerson from the Nationals for Alfonso Soriano previous to the deal with the Padres.

I think if the Rangers traded Chris Davis the town might riot against the front office. He has quickly become a fan favorite. The fans already see visions of Hamilton-Davis-Justin Smoak hitting next to each other in a potent lineup for years to come.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 4:59 pm

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Actually, the A's trade was a very good trade for Oakland. Billy Beane is that good, he got the Cubs seventh ranked prospect (C- Josh Donaldson) and P- Sean Gallagher and two position players who stats in the minors are very impressive (check Baseball America Prospects). As I will quote one reporter who broke the trade down "It may seem strange given the names and the scouting reports involved, but it is clear that the A’s won this trade. It may not be the slam-dunk win that the trade was, but this trade won’t hurt the A’s in 2008, and it will help them in 2010"

I have included the link to the article () it provides very good insight into the trade. Again, check out the numbers and players involved don't always go peoples reactions because most people don't know what there talking about. Read into things and check for your self.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 4:20 pm

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CV - who did the Padres give up for Gonzalez again?  I couldn't remember if Young and AG were together in that deal or not - my mind is betraying me.

Any chance the Rangers would consider trading Chris Davis for Brian Giles and Greg Maddux?  :)  Think of how great all of that veteran leadership would be.  The Rangers seem destined to never have good starting pitching again.  Young, Danks, Volquez - not a bad starting rotation.  Josh Hamilton is pretty good compensation for Volquez, but man they could use the pitching.

At least it's fun to watch them score run after run - just go get yourself a beer and some nachos while they're in the field and it'll be a lot more enjoyable to watch them play......

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 3:12 pm

Monday's trade talk

Who is we? Are you in some way affiliated with the Mariners? Did they become a publicly owned company? I don't think any of the ACTUAL people that can truly call themselves part of the Mariners would waste their time on this message board trying to hype up the worst team in the American League.

But by the way I am a fan of the Rangers. So do not try to tell me I am not a fan. Nevertheless, I would never refer to the Rangers as "we" because I am not ignorant enough to believe that the Rangers would want anyone trying to represent them outside of the organization.

Go get some Starbucks, loser.

Since: Apr 14, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2008 3:03 pm

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CV, I could care less what you think as does the rest of the country...... Rather have passion for one team than no team at all.

We will be back...............

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 2:49 pm

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Yeah, I just cannot wait until Duchscherer is dealt... Just the next great A's pitcher to get sent packing.

Gallagher better not get too comfortable either.

Since: Feb 4, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2008 2:40 pm

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Yeah, I don't know how the Yanks pulled it off either.  Great deal.  Pirates didn't do much, if anything, to helps themselves.  Typical bad deal.  The real trade though that I'll never understand -- Harden & Gaudin for a whole bunch of garbage.  The A's were still in the hunt before the trade.  But even if they weren't, they got nothing in return for a great pitcher and a decent pitcher.  Never will I understand that deal, as it simply CANNOT help the A's.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 1:57 pm

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YAASA......Everyday I say to myself that I am just going to read and not post, but everyday I seem to find at least one poster that has no knowledge of what they are saying. Gift wrapped you say and then you mention the Mets prospect one and only top prospect Fernando Martinez, who the Mets already said is untradable and will not be moved. So let's rule the Mets out of this deal because with out Martinez they cannot get Nady or Marte. The Mets have better prospects you say, well the fact is they don't. Jose Tabata was the center piece of the trade and was the Yankees so called "Crown Jewel" as of last year. Yes his is value went down slightly due to an off the field incident  however, the kid is only 19 and is still considered to be a top flight prospect. The other three involved are not bad players either. By all accounts from radio to TV here in NY everyone agrees that unless the Mets included Martinez they simply do not have the prospects to get the deal done PERIOD.

Check your stats before you post next time please, Baseball America has the Yankee farm system ranked 5th and the Mets at 26, especially after the Johan trade. Just because you believe the Yankees do not have a good farm system does not make it true. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH....PLEASE CHECK YOUR STATS IF YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE A STATMENT.

Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 1:49 pm

Monday's trade talk

Two things before I begin:

No one cares about the Mariners.

Yorvit Torrealba is on the Rockies.

I would not be surprised to see Gerald Laird dealt somewhere for a mid- to top-level pitching prospect considering the fleece deals the Rangers have pulled lately near the trade deadline. If only Jon Daniels could stay away from off season trading then the Rangers would still have Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez.

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