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What You Need To Know

Posted on: November 21, 2008 1:46 am
Edited on: November 21, 2008 1:47 am

Michigan upset UCLA.

Illinois notched a huge non-league win.

Here's Friday morning's What You Need To Know:

Notable game from Thursday: DeShawn Sims called it the "biggest win" he's had at Michigan, and who's going to argue with that? The junior forward got 18 points -- including a huge dunk on a backdoor cut in the final minutes -- to lead the Wolverines to a 55-52 victory over fourth-ranked UCLA at New York's Madison Square Garden. It was a game that proved once again that John Beilein is a pretty good coach and showed once and for all that those who thought UCLA wouldn't miss Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute were probably being a little naive Sure, the Bruins will be fine in the end, if only because they always are. But for now this is still a team trying to figure it out, evidence being the near loss to Miami (Ohio) and subsequent loss to Michigan.

Notable performance from Thursday: While all the attention was on New York, Illinois was picking up a nice non-league win at Vanderbilt behind a 23-point, six-assist effort from Demetri McCamey. The 6-foot-3 guard was 9-of-18 from the field, including 5-of-10 from 3-point range in the Illini's 69-63 victory. He's now averaging 15.7 points per game for a 3-0 team.

Notable game scheduled for Friday: The headliner is Duke-Michigan, but the more interesting match-up might be Southern Illinois-UCLA. SIU needs this to start building an at-large resume, and UCLA can't really afford to lose another November game just for the sake of self-respect. So the Salukis and Bruins will battle at Madison Square Garden, and considering how much Chris Lowery and Ben Howland love defense I won't be surprised if the final score is 19-17, one way or another.

Category: NCAAB

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 8:41 pm

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Although surprised by the fact that UCLA has stumbled within the first week and a half of the college basketball, however UCLA should not be counted this early in the season, there is too much potential there in Westwood. It will take time for the Gordon Morgan, Anderson, Lee, and Holiday to gel with the veteran squad of Bruins. They are still the cream of the crop in the Pac-10, and will be there in March and April.


Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 2:33 pm

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I agree wholeheartedly.  There needs to be a requirement of 3 years, or none at all.  3 years is enough to get a degree (see Shane Battier).  The Durants and Odens of the basketball world are the exception.   The major function of a university is the pursuit of knowledge.  How many thousands of kids are there who get basketball scholarships and do not finish degree or go to pro ball.  I think that higher academic standards need to be enforced, and if you don't want to go to college, just play in a few leagues for a while until you fully mature.

Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: November 21, 2008 12:00 pm

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I think when you try to compare this class with the last several classes then yes they aren't very good.  But the last several classes were an exception to the norm.  Rose, Beasley, Mayo, Love, etc.  A unique breed of NBA ready players.  Same thing with Oden, Durant, Wright the year before.  But then you look beyond that and in '05 you had Paulus as the #1 PG and McRoberts as the #1 PF.  Not an intentional attack on Duke but that just speaks to the caliber of players we were looking at the last few years. 

This class will produce some strong NBA players, just not one and done players which I think is great for the college game.  As a UCLA fan I'm excited by the fact that we have a lot of young unrefined talent who will play together for two, three or even four years.  It's taxing on a program to have to win it all in any given year because half the team is going to the NBA. 

Since: Feb 26, 2007
Posted on: November 21, 2008 10:40 am

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I missed that comment as well, capt, but it might be the first intelligent statement ever uttered by Dickie V.

Since: Oct 8, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 9:25 am

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I didn't watch all of the game BuccinGator so I missed that comment by Dick Vitale. I was just telling my wife the exact same thing though. Either go to the NBA straight out of high school or go to college for three years just like football. Wow, me and Dick Vitale think alike. I hate the thought of that.

Since: Jan 25, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 8:39 am

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There are no one and done locks this year like the last few but I wouldn't say the class isn't very good yet. A couple games in to the season isn't a way to judge yet. You never know who will emerge as top players (example: Russell Westbrook going from a three star recruit to a #4 pick in the NBA draft in 2 years). Give it some time... but yeah, wow, not a good start for the Pac-10.

Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: November 21, 2008 8:34 am

Wanted your opinion, Gary

Dick Vitale mentioned something during the Michigan UCLA broadcast that I happen to agree with and wanted your opinion.  He thinks the "One and done" rule not allowing high school kids to be drafted is ridiculous and needs to be changed.  He asked if we really believe these kids with the talent of a Greg Oden, or Kevin Durant (I throw their names out because I am ignorant of this year's freshman phenoms) should be allowed to get drafted, but if you don't get drafted, or you choose to go to college, you should have to go for three years, just like football players.  To me, this makes a lot of sense.  Wondered what you thought.

Since: Oct 19, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 2:43 am

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It really looks like the 2008 class isn't very good in general.  UCLA had by far the best class (if you trust the national recruiting services) but none of those guys outside of Jrue Holiday gave them anything and they lost to Michigan?  In a normal year, the #1 recruiting class by itself should be enough to beat Michigan,  but they were added to what already was a decent team for UCLA with Darren Collison and some less heralded but still talented returners.  Not a great year for recruiting if UCLA's is the best class.  DeMar DeRozan hasn't been producing much lately, either.  USC is going to miss OJ Mayo (one of the truly great one & dones) more than people thought because it doesn't look like they can replace him with DeRozan.

The Pac-10 isn't looking very good right now with UCLA struggling, USC losing to Seton Hall (and DeRozan not being very productive and Alex Stepheson having to sit out), Washington having lost to Portland, Arizona losing to UAB and Oregon having lost to Oakland.  I could talk about Oregon State being bad, but they're always bad so no news there.

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