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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: November 24, 2008 3:44 pm
Edited on: November 25, 2008 9:40 am

There was a tournament in Puerto Rico this past weekend.

Apparently nobody watched it.

Which was bad for them but good for the Poll Attacks.

AP poll: This week let's just examine the ballot of George Geise of the Great Falls Tribune in Montana, who clearly has no idea what happened in the Puerto Rico Tip-off and thus has one of the craziest ballots of all the AP voters. Consider that he doesn't have Xavier on his ballot even though Xavier beat Missouri, Virginia Tech and Memphis to win the event, and that wouldn't be so bad if not for the fact that he ranked the teams that finished second (Memphis), third (Seton Hall) and sixth (USC) in the tournament.

Seriously, Geise has Memphis at No. 13, USC at No. 19 and Seton Hall at No. 24.

But he omitted Xavier completely.

They must not have ESPN2 in Montana.

That's the only explanation.

Coaches poll: The coaches poll has never seemed practical to me because the reality is that most coaches don't have time to keep up with what's going on around the nation. Coaches run practices, handle media requests, meet with boosters, recruit and scout upcoming opponents, and if you've ever talked to a coach you know there's a good chance he has no idea what's happening outside of his league or with the teams on his schedule.

Proof of this came in this week's coaches poll.

Because Southern California got four votes.

(So George Geise isn't the only one not paying attention.)

Look, you won't find a bigger fan of USC's talent and potential than me; I love what that team might be in March. But right now the Trojans are 3-2 with losses to Seton Hall and Missouri, and thus in no position to be on anybody's Top 25 ballot. Still, the Trojans got four votes, which is hilarious because it's four more than Seton Hall and Missouri combined to get in the coaches poll. In other words, USC has two losses to two teams that no coach felt worthy of a Top 25 ranking, and yet the Trojans still made their way onto at least one coach's ballot.

I wonder if the guilty coach is from Montana?

That could explain a lot.

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Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2008 5:17 pm

The Poll Attacks

Fair enough. Keep up the good work.

Since: Jul 14, 2008
Posted on: November 24, 2008 5:11 pm

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Go Sooners...

Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: November 24, 2008 5:09 pm

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It's not like OU is the only team playing bad competition right now.

But Griffin is the only one getting 35 and 21.

Sure, those numbers won't be the norm in Big 12 play. But they're impressive regardless of the competition.

As for OU's jump, it's just me compensating for having them ranked too low to begin with. They've already got a win over a Top 25 team, and not many other schools can say that. Plus, who below them is obviously better? I can't think of anybody.

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: November 24, 2008 4:59 pm

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In fairness, Gary, I don't get you moving Oklahoma from 20 to 12 in your poll when they beat Gardner Webb by 4 points. Davidson lost 3 of their top 5 players so I think that they have the best guard in the nation with not much help.

Also Griffin is a Top 15 player but I don't get too excited about 35 points and 21 rebounds when they are playing such a tiny little team, Gardner Webb has the smallest frontline that I know of in Division I.


Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: November 24, 2008 4:21 pm

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Montana is my favorite state to visit. If you have ever been to Glacier National Park, you know why.

Since: Feb 17, 2008
Posted on: November 24, 2008 4:08 pm

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I don't think I want to visit Montana.

Since: Aug 2, 2008
Posted on: November 24, 2008 3:49 pm

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Montana is a wonderful state, ESPN2 compatible or not.

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