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Gary Parrish

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Name: gary parrish | Gender: M | Member Since February 8, 2007
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 8:44 pm
Edited on: December 2, 2008 3:05 pm
Score: 91
 

I don't want to keep picking on that newspaper guy from Montana.

But wait to you see what he did this time.

Here come the Poll Attacks.

AP poll: Nobody wants UAB to be good more than me. For starters, I wrote a column about the Blazers last week, and I did that with the hope that I'd look smart after they played well in New York. Beyond that, I live near a C-USA city, which means it's better for me when C-USA is good, and for C-USA to be good it needs UAB to be good.

And I think UAB will be good.

I like the roster.

But there is no way to rank UAB after it lost by double-digits to Oklahoma and by six to Boston College at the NIT Season Tip-off. I mean, Boston College is 4-2 with a loss to Saint Louis. And Saint Louis is 2-3 with a loss to Detroit. And Detroit is 2-3 with a loss to Western Michigan. And Western Michigan is 2-5 with a loss to damn-near everybody it has played ... except Detroit. So that's a long-winded way of saying that UAB's loss to Boston College was a bad loss, and that a previously unranked team like UAB shouldn't be getting votes when it is on a two-game losing streak, particularly when the second loss came to Boston College on a neutral court. Still, John Shinn of the Norman Transcript ranked the Blazers 18th on his ballot, and there is no explanation for this save that he simply got confused while watching the BCS show Sunday afternoon.

Also, I have an update George Geise.

You remember George, right?

He's the guy from the Great Falls Tribune in Montana who ranked Memphis, USC and Seton Hall last week but failed to rank Xavier, which won the Puerto Rico Tip-off that Memphis, USC and Seton Hall each played in. That was a glaring mistake. So I called him on it, and this week George vaulted Xavier all the way up to No. 16 even though the Musketeers didn't really do anything over the past seven days, and he dropped Seton Hall and USC out of his rankings even though the Pirates and Trojans didn't lose over the past seven days.

In other words, George is a week behind everybody else.

But he's trying his best.

So good for him.

Anyway, now we have a new problem.

It involves Syracuse.

As you might know, the Orange beat Florida and Kansas last week, which is why I have Syracuse ranked 12th in the Top 25 (and one). But our pal George has a history of not letting games affect the way he votes, which is (presumably) why he ranked Florida 17th, Kansas 21st and omitted the undefeated team with wins over both those schools (i.e., Syracuse). Furthermore, he still has Louisville ranked fifth (despite a loss to WKU), Michigan State ranked seventh (despite a fourth-place finish in the Old Spice Classic) and Marquette ranked 14th despite a loss to Dayton.

By the way, Dayton is undefeated with a double-digit win over that Marquette team George ranked 14th.

So where does George have Dayton ranked?

Naturally, he didn't rank the Flyers at all.

My God.

Coaches poll: Try to follow me, if you can. Baylor beat Arizona State and then lost to Wake Forest on a neutral court in Anaheim. That's a good weekend, splitting against a pair of Top 25 teams. But the coaches watched (or didn't watch) all this and filed their ballots and ranked the first-place team (Wake Forest), second-place team (Baylor) and third-place team (Arizona State) in the 76 Classic as follows:

  • 17. Wake Forest
  • 19. Arizona State
  • Others receiving votes: Baylor

In other words, the coaches didn't care that Baylor and ASU -- a pair of one-loss teams -- played on a neutral court, and that Baylor won that game 87-78. That's bananas. But on the other hand, I'm told Oklahoma football fans believe this makes perfect sense.

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HoyaParanoia07
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:03 pm
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Gary,

How does a writer earn a vote in the AP poll?  How long does he/she keep that vote for and can it be taken away from them?

This all just reminds me of an oblivious elderly driver inching along with his turn signal on for 10 miles.



alexr29
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:21 pm
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I am surprised that you didn't attack the pollsters that voted Michigan into their Top 25.  Although they did beat UCLA at the Garden, didn't they just have to rally from a 20 point halftime deficit against freakin Savannah State?  That doesn't sound like a Top 25 team to me.



LoKis Advocate
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Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:22 pm
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Okay everybody, raise your hand if you saw the Oklahoma jab coming after the second sentence under "Coaches Poll"

*raises hand*



FutureNole10
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:56 pm
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LOL, my hand is up... But last time i checked. Baylor also didnt SMASH 2 top 10 teams in the past week, so there is a little difference Gary.



Duke Fan
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 10:46 pm
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Gary,

This was simply your best post ever.  I love how you managed to rip the BCS when talking college basketball.  It's a shame that obviously beat a team at a neutral site means nothing to voters and thus the rankings.



Court181
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Posted on: December 1, 2008 11:43 pm
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Gary, you are a snitch and you know the adage "snitches get stiches".....  Watch out for this George guy, he might want to give you a few of those stiches after reading your Poll Attack, or do they have the internet in Montana...  You might be safe man... 

 

Court Dog



tyellington
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Posted on: December 2, 2008 12:14 am
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i love calling out stupidity of voters... but we need to not get so hung up over one game here and there, as if it makes a big difference.

yea, baylor beat az state. doesnt mean theyre a better team. maybe az state would have beaten wake forest (the ol texas tech wild card). these rankings are just guidelines, and teams shouldnt be jumping 10 spots or dropping 10 spots because of the results of one game.



XU BABY!!!
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Posted on: December 2, 2008 12:25 am
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Just to let you know, I sent a friendly little note to our friend George over at the Great Falls Tribune. I also sent it to their complaints section of their newspaper. George is obviously a poor voter and should be kicked out.



Reignman40
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Posted on: December 2, 2008 12:28 am
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To be fair...he lives in Montana...I'm surprised he's only a week behind. I wouldn't be surprised if his poll looked similar to that of one in 1993.



Kingofzachland
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Posted on: December 2, 2008 1:10 am
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In other words, the coaches didn't care that Baylor and ASU -- a pair of one-loss teams -- played on a neutral court, and that Baylor won that game 87-78. That's bananas. But on the other hand, I'm told Oklahoma football fans believe this makes perfect sense.Funniest line I've read in awhile. Thanks Gary!



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Gary Parrish is CBSSports.com's college basketball columnist. Contrary to popular belief, he does not use a tanning bed or anything unnatural to color his skin. He was simply tan the afternoon he took that picture, the result of lounging at a Las Vegas pool for five consecutive days.
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