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Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Posted on: January 3, 2009 2:58 pm
Edited on: January 3, 2009 2:59 pm

OK, I'm ready to accept Pittsburgh as the obvious No. 2 team in the country.

That's what Saturday's dismantling of Georgetown did.

Final score: Panthers 70, Hoyas 54.

So it's time to cement Pitt as the Big East favorite and biggest threat to North Carolina this side of Tyler Hansbrough jumping off a house, breaking his leg and ending his career prematurely, because the Panthers were fantastic at Georgetown, grabbing nearly as many offensive rebounds (18) as the Hoyas did total rebounds (20) thanks to a 20-point, 17-board effort from sophomore DaJuan Blair.

That's strong.

That's convincing.

That's why the Panthers should be the unanimous No. 2 team in the country.

And just so we're clear, it's not that I ever doubted Pitt, because it's always been clear that the Panthers have a great coach (Jamie Dixon), some great experienced talent (Sam Young and Levance Fields) and a developed habit of winning. It's just that I have trouble pushing teams to the top of the rankings when they haven't beaten anybody of note (that, by the way, is the reason I have UCLA ranked lower than  the Bruins are in both the AP and Coaches poll), and entering this weekend the Panthers were 13-0 with their best win coming by single digits over a Florida State team that had previously lost by double digits to Northwestern.

Meantime: No. 1 North Carolina had wins over Michigan State, Notre Dame and Kentucky; No. 2 Connecticut had wins over Wisconsin, Miami and Gonzaga; No. 4 Oklahoma had wins over Davidson, Purdue and Southern California; and No. 5 Duke had wins over Michigan, Purdue and Xavier.

In other words, Pitt's resume was less impressive than the other four teams in the top five of the latest AP poll.

But not anymore.

The Panthers went to Georgetown and pounded a team with wins over Maryland, Memphis and Connecticut.

And that's strong.

And that's convincing.

And that's why the Panthers should be the unanimous No. 2 team in the country.


Since: Dec 8, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 8:27 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Whats scary is Pitt was terrible from 3 point land and did not get to the line at all and still crushed G town

Since: Jan 8, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 8:07 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Dejaun is the beast of the east.

Since: Dec 14, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 8:04 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Well, as a big PITT fan i can understand you needing this win to put them at the top. Remeber this around march when we get a bad seed for the big one. This year will be different, alot a players are back and we need them to play like vets if we want a national championship. No quit in PITT this time around final four here we come.

Since: Oct 4, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 8:02 pm

North Carolina Schedule

So far, NC's schedule (including big-names Notre Dame, Michigan State, and Kentucky) is 71-71.  Kentucky opened the season by losing to VMI at home.  Notre Dame just lost to rebuilding St. John's.  Michigan State is 10-2 with wins over Texas and Oklahoma State and a double digit loss to unranked Maryland.

Pitt's schedule so far is 101-60, with wins over Miami (OH), Florida State, Washington State, and Siena as well as today's win over Georgetown.  You can sneeer at Florida State for losing to Northwestern, but they've beaten Billy Donovan's Gators and pretty good Cincinnati and Cal teams.  Miami (OH) has four losses - at UCLA (by 5), at Pitt, at Xavier (by 7), and at WVU, their one big win was against Temple.  Washington State isn't all that good right now, but they have a solid program.  Siena?  They went 0-3 in their holiday tournament, losing to Tennessee, Wichita State, and Oklahoma State, then lost to Pitt.  Again, they haven't beaten anyone of note, their last big win was to beat a 4 seed (Vanderbilt) by 21 last March.

RPI is surely not a great tool right now; in fact it doesn't do a good job of comparing teams until most conference schedules are about half-done.  But dismissing a team as weak because they "lost to Northwestern" isn't really a better tool than the currently imprecise RPI.  In fact it's worse, and in fact downright lazy.  All teams need to be evaluated on their body of work, at all stages of the season.  You know that, you're a better sports journalist than that.

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2009 8:00 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

I think you're seeing the Big East shape up like the SEC does in Football, where everyone is beating up one another.  I think Pitt clearly made a statement to Conneticut, Notre Dame and Louisville too that they are the team to beat in the Big East right now.

Meanwhile, Georgetown goes from darling after beating Conneticut to staring a possible 1-2 Big East start now that they have to go on the road to the aforementioned Notre Dame.

And personally, I think RPI is meaningless to a point.  It comes down to this:

- Who did you beat, when, where and by how much?

- How did you perform in your own conference?

Unfortunately, College Basketball almost has the "bowl syndrome" sometimes and teams that get in (last 4 in) usually could end up being one of a dozen different "bubble teams".  Outside of maybe the top 10 teams in the polls, it is rare in today's game to see someone come out of nowhere to win the National Championship.

As one poster said, it's UNC and almost anyone else.

But at least I have some faith now the Panthers could give them a game.

Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 7:12 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Huge win over a legit team with alot of experience.

Pitt totally owned Gtown underneath. The shear the fact that Pitt almost had more offensive rebounds than gtown did total shows how well Pitt can play on a given day

Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: January 3, 2009 6:28 pm
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Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2009 6:24 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

Hubris is a stinky cologn...

Since: Nov 22, 2006
Posted on: January 3, 2009 5:50 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

doesn't matter  UNC beats anyone anywhere

Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: January 3, 2009 4:37 pm

Pitt legitimized its record at Georgetown

I'm saying the RPI is mostly meaningless until around Feb. 1.

I don't even look at it until then.

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