Play Fantasy Use your Fantasy skills to win Cash Prizes. Join or start a league today. Play Now
Blog Entry

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Posted on: February 21, 2009 11:58 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2009 11:10 am
 

Pittsburgh, you may now proceed to the top of the national rankings.

That's the end result of a wild Saturday on which No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 3 North Carolina both lost (to unranked Texas and unranked Maryland), clearing the way for the Panthers -- who beat top-ranked Connecticut last Monday -- to rise to the top of the Top 25 (and one) late Sunday night, then the AP and Coaches polls on Monday. It's the only logical move, so much so that I imagine Pitt will get all 72 first-place votes in the AP poll and all 31 in the Coaches poll. Anything short of that will be proof that somebody with a vote isn't paying attention, and if such a person presents himself (or herself), that person will be Poll Attacked on Monday afternoon.

Here's all you need to know:

  • Pitt is 25-2 overall.
  • Nobody has more wins or fewer losses.
  • Pitt has compiled this record against a schedule rated 12th nationally.
  • Pitt has six wins against the top 25 of CBSSports.com's RPI rankings.
  • Nobody else has more than four.
  • Both of Pitt's losses came on the road.
  • The losses were to the schools ranked seventh (Louisville) and 12th (Villanova) in the latest AP poll.

So to summarize, the Panthers have more good wins (i.e., wins against the top 25 of CBSSports.com's RPI rankings) than anybody, just as few losses as the other elite teams, and no bad losses (like Oklahoma's loss to Arkansas, North Carolina's loss to Boston College, Connecticut's loss to Georgetown, etc.).

Best I can tell, that makes Jamie Dixon's team the easy No. 1.

Any other opinion is a faulty opinion.

Category: NCAAB
Comments

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: February 23, 2009 12:22 am
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Bodie, I take issue with the inferance that Pitt depends on 1 player too much. Sam Young, a senior scores over 20 points most games and aptly takes up the slack when Blair is on the bench. Fields is the best point guard in the Big East, if not the nation. He not only wins games down the stretch, with 3 pointers and foul shots, but has more assists than 95% of others at his position. I would agree that Pitt's only 2 losses were certainly because Blair was in foul trouble and played less than half of those two games, but Pitt had WINS, with Blair in foul trouble.



chris8401
Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2009 12:22 am
This comment has been removed.

Post Deleted by Administrator




Since: Feb 20, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 11:23 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

yes they are




Since: Feb 28, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2009 11:09 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

"That everyone was fooled by Georgetown at the time doesn't make the loss any better. We know now that Georgetown is not the 8th-best team in the nation, nor even close. It's not an awful loss (like, say, Oklahoma's loss to Arkansas), but it's worse than either of Pitt's."

Georgetown isn't a bad ball club... I wonder if they or Notre Dame were in a different conference (C-USA or SEC?) how they might have fared this year. They aren't the eighth best team in the country... or the conference for that matter... but they aren't a bad loss.  Pitt's losses have been reasonable as well. 

I could argue that Pitt should be 1 and UConn 2... that's a good thing for other top teams since both play each other once more and that means there will be at least one more chance for a shake-up on top before the end of the season...

But who will be there to take advantage?  One could make an argument that Oklahoma ought to be three and that the loss to Texas was skewed by a lack of Griffinishness... Memphis at 4? It could happen. Carolina out of the top 4? Maybe.  Louisville back in the top 5? Man. Feels like March is here early.




Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 10:56 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Perhaps Memphis will slide up, but the only team they have a chance of jumping over is UNC, and I don't think that will happen.

As someone who has seen Memphis and UNC play, I would not be surprised if Memphis jumps UNC in Parrish's and the "other major" polls.  I would be even less surprised if the selection committee seeds them higher than UNC.

 

 




Since: Feb 27, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 10:28 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

You name UConn's loss to G-town as a bad loss even though they were ranked 8th at the time?! That loss isn't the same as UNC's losses to unranked foe's, even OU's loss to Texas.
That everyone was fooled by Georgetown at the time doesn't make the loss any better. We know now that Georgetown is not the 8th-best team in the nation, nor even close. It's not an awful loss (like, say, Oklahoma's loss to Arkansas), but it's worse than either of Pitt's.




Since: Feb 27, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 10:24 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Blah, blah, same garbage was said last year and MSU would take Memphis out too, same old BCS conference garbage against C-USA. It just hasn't panned out like that the last 3 years has it? Can you say 17 point never in it drubbing in Houston last year?

Last year, Memphis had considerably more talent. They also went out and beat some good teams before the tournament (six top 50 teams) and lost just once all season in a semi-rivalry game against a very good team. Anyone who thought Memphis would be an easy out last year was crazy. My only concern with them was that they might have gotten into some bad habits that went unnoticed during the long winning streak early on (I've seen it happen to several teams before); the loss to Tennessee probably actually helped there.

This year's results are far less encouraging. And it's this year's team, not last year's, that we're arguing about for a 1 seed.

It's always easier to stand by the old conference argument but we don't see any of the powerhouse conferences wanting to make trips to UAB, Tulsa, UTEP or Houston to play in their house. MSU went to Bradley (a team that, unlike UAB, Tulsa, UTEP, or Houston, has actually made the tourney recently) last year for a true road game, and played BYU (who was in the tourney that year) at Salt Lake City. They went to Hawaii and UW-Green Bay in 2006 (and IPFW this year, but I'm not sure that falls into the same class). They played George Washington in 2005 in D.C. (though not at GW's home arena). So while your argument may hold water for most major-conference schools, it doesn't for MSU.




Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2009 10:04 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Oklahoma has a case despite the loss, because they lost at Texas, a rival, by just five without Blake Griffin. Texas doesn't stay within 10 of Oklahoma if Griffin doesn't get a concussion.

Parrish is right that Pittsburgh deserves it, but Doug Gottlieb's not wrong in suggesting Oklahoma. Anyone else, no way, but Oklahoma's loss really doesn't count.




Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: February 22, 2009 10:00 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

RE: Pitt's non-conference wins -

the fact that Dixon has never lost in Nov is incredible but you have to admit that some of it has to do with non-conference schedules, right?  I am a huge Pitt fan and wanted the weekend trifecta to make us #1 (OU loss, NC loss, and Pitt with 2 wins Uconn and DePaul).

We have some nice wins pre-confernece the last two years - Duke last year (I was there for that game at the Garden that was terrific and highlighted Fields' big time shot reputation) and Tx Tech / Belmont this year.

Go Panthers!




Since: Feb 22, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2009 9:55 pm
 

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Neither Uconn's loss to Georgetown or to Pitt was a bad loss.  Kid from Georgetown had a once-in-a-lifetime game.  Horrible call by ref took Tabeet out of Pitt game.  (Not to mention a kid closing his eyes and throwing up two threes that essentially banked in.)  If Dyson plays, Huskies win by ten.

Kemba Walker and Stanley Robinson show up against Pitt on the road and again in the Big East Tournament.

Even without Dyson, Huskies are still best team in America.  And Jamie Dixon looks like--and acts like--a rat.

 



The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or CBSSports.com