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Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Posted on: February 21, 2009 11:58 pm
Edited on: February 22, 2009 11:10 am

Pittsburgh, you may now proceed to the top of the national rankings.

That's the end result of a wild Saturday on which No. 2 Oklahoma and No. 3 North Carolina both lost (to unranked Texas and unranked Maryland), clearing the way for the Panthers -- who beat top-ranked Connecticut last Monday -- to rise to the top of the Top 25 (and one) late Sunday night, then the AP and Coaches polls on Monday. It's the only logical move, so much so that I imagine Pitt will get all 72 first-place votes in the AP poll and all 31 in the Coaches poll. Anything short of that will be proof that somebody with a vote isn't paying attention, and if such a person presents himself (or herself), that person will be Poll Attacked on Monday afternoon.

Here's all you need to know:

  • Pitt is 25-2 overall.
  • Nobody has more wins or fewer losses.
  • Pitt has compiled this record against a schedule rated 12th nationally.
  • Pitt has six wins against the top 25 of's RPI rankings.
  • Nobody else has more than four.
  • Both of Pitt's losses came on the road.
  • The losses were to the schools ranked seventh (Louisville) and 12th (Villanova) in the latest AP poll.

So to summarize, the Panthers have more good wins (i.e., wins against the top 25 of's RPI rankings) than anybody, just as few losses as the other elite teams, and no bad losses (like Oklahoma's loss to Arkansas, North Carolina's loss to Boston College, Connecticut's loss to Georgetown, etc.).

Best I can tell, that makes Jamie Dixon's team the easy No. 1.

Any other opinion is a faulty opinion.

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Since: Feb 27, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 1:09 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Michigan St. has lost HOME games to Penn St., Northwestern and Purdue.
Check your facts. The Purdue loss was on the road. And none of them came with a fully healthy Raymar Morgan (the Purdue game was his first game back).

I don't think MSU is getting a #1 seed, but they have a much better case than Memphis. 3-2 against the Sagarin top 25 (Memphis is 1-2), 9-2 against the top 50 (Memphis is 3-3). Yes, they have a few bad losses, but they've proven they can compete against the good teams. Memphis has proven that they can beat up on the weaklings in CUSA, but their record against good competition is not so impressive.

Since: Feb 15, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 1:04 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

And another thing Mr. kspine, you need to check your facts before blabbing away here.  In the Pitt-Louisville(of which you spoke of disproportionate fouls in favor of Pitt and Blair in cement), Pitt had more fouls called on them and 24 in total(a ridiculous number), and the only place Blair was cemented in was the bench with foul trouble....he played only 20 minutes and fouled out in the second half.  So you can't discuss how he was schooled by your big guys, he still almost had a double double....he had 9pts. and 10 rebounds.

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Since: Sep 25, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:44 pm
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Since: Feb 15, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:27 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

kspine....Yes, please give us(Pitt) the same BEAT DOWN you gave us the previous three times L'Ville-Pitt met in the Big East Tourney.  Oh, flashback, L'Ville  0-3 vs. Pitt in that tourney....when it counted....Pitt smoked your Cards.

Since: Jan 27, 2009
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:25 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

For what its worth, in the "cupcake" wins the underclassmen have played major minutes.  Not only does that keep the starters fresh for a deep tournament run, but also prepares the next class for Big East competition.  It is not now or never.  Its now and then again.  Hail to Pitt!

Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:08 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

As a long standing PITT fan I have to say PITT is now a basketball power. The so called big three are a key to winning, but the role players are also important to the cause. Players like Biggs, Dixon, Brown, Wanamaker and Ashton all play key roles. Biggs who finally is playing his game (everyone wanted him to be the Blair style of player) which is all-round, shooting the three, the midrange shot, and banging down low. Dixon who's 3 point shot has improved greatly and he compliment Fields well. Off the bench, Brown could start for a lot of the Top 25 teams, Wanamaker can play all three spots PG, SG and SF) Ashton has played well for a freshman. Now is the time for the Panthers to get over the proverbial hump (the sweet 16) and make it to the final four.

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:01 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Pitt is to me a real #1 team in the country.  They are tough, physical and plays very good team basketball.  And this is coming from a Memphis fan.

Since: Nov 30, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 12:00 pm

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

I'm just happy Parrish finally mentioned that Pitt is the only Elite team with no bad losses.  Everyone says, "This team hasn't beaten anyone."  Or, "That team may have a couple losses, but look at who they beat."  And it's all meaningless.  In both football and basketball (if you're in one of the 6 major conferences) you're ranked based on your losses, not your wins - how often is a team with 3 losses from the Big East ranked higher than a team with 2 losses from the ACC or whatever.  When teams have the same number of losses how about looking at who they lost to, because they will all have some high quality wins this late in the year:

Pitt - @ #11 Villanova, @ #12 Louisvile (CBS RPI)

UCONN - #1 Pitt, #44 Georgetown

Oklahoma - @ #39 Texas, @ #130 Arkansas

North Carolina - @ #17 Wake Forrest, @ #53 Maryland, #54 Boston College

Wake Forrest "best loss" was @ #46 Miami

Memphis has lost to the 2 highest ranked RPI teams they've played

It should be obvious even without Uconn, Okla and UNC losing THIS week that Pitt has done what good team are supposed to do - beat the teams they're supposed to beat.  In my mind, beating #11 Villanova does not make up for losing to #155 South Florida (Marquette) or beating #3 UNC does not make up for losing to #160 Georgia Tech (Wake Forrest).  That logic is like saying, "If Wake Forrest wouldn't have lost to the 15 seed in the first round, I think they could have handled UNC in the Final Four."  You should have to beat the teams you're supposed to beat to be considered an elite team.



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: February 22, 2009 11:42 am

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

NotoLucky you must have missed the Louisville Game, Pitt got all the whistles in that game got beat by a superior team.  Earl Clark and T-Will made Blair look like he had his feet firmly planted in cement, he is waaaaaayyyy to slow to hang with those two.  I'd love to get Pitt again in the BE Tourney and give them another Ville Beat Down.

Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: February 22, 2009 11:28 am

Your new No. 1: Pitt (and it's not debatable)

Pitt obviously has to be the only choice for #1. The question that I pose is who's #2, 3, 4, etc? With so many good teams losing this week (UConn, UNC, Oklahoma), the poll is going to be drastically shaken up tomorrow.

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