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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: March 2, 2009 5:05 pm
Edited on: March 2, 2009 6:56 pm
 

Taylor Rochestie's game-winning shot was great this weekend, I admit.

But great enough to put Washington State on somebody's ballot?

Not. Even. Close. Bud.

It's time to Poll Attack !

AP poll: Myron Medcalf of the Minneapolis Star Tribune ranked Pittsburgh eighth, and that's not even the craziest thing about his ballot. No, the craziest thing about his ballot is that he has Washington State ranked 22nd, which would make sense if the season started Feb. 21, because Washington State has been pretty good since Feb. 21, and the Cougars deserve some credit for that.

But a national ranking?

Please.

Washington State is currently sixth in the Pac-10 standings, 8-9 in the league and 16-13 overall. That alone suggests the Cougars shouldn't be anywhere near an AP ballot, and if you look closer it gets worse. They are 0-3 against the top 25 (in the RPI), 4-8 against the top 50, 5-11 against the top 100 and 10-13 against the top 200, meaning Tony Bennett's team actually has a losing record in games where their opponent doesn't have an RPI worse than 200.

Ranking somebody with that body of work is inexplicable. And what makes it worse is the fact that Myron has Xavier ranked a spot below Washington State, which means he thinks a team that is 10-13 against the top 200 is better than a team that is 19-5 against the top 200. Come on, man. Really?

Coaches poll: The main problem with the Coaches poll is that Connecticut isn't the unanimous No. 1. As I pointed out in the Top 25 (and one) , the Huskies have more wins (27) and fewer losses (2) than anybody, and they're doing this in what I believe is the toughest league in the country. The four No. 1 votes that didn't go to UConn went to Memphis, and though I'm not here to bash Memphis because I think the Tigers are absolutely good enough to make another Final Four (remember, Tiger fans, I have you ranked in the top five!), I can't help but wonder how somebody can justify having Memphis No. 1 on a ballot given that the Tigers have losses to two of the best three teams they've played, and that they have as many Big East losses as Connecticut despite not playing in the Big East.

Seriously, Memphis is 2-2 against Big East teams.

Connecticut is 15-2 against Big East teams.

I'm not sure what that means, exactly.

But I'm pretty sure it means UConn should be ahead of Memphis on every ballot.

 

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Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2009 10:04 am
 

The Poll Attacks

I agree, but they have had some quality wins againts ucla at home, asu and u of a.
 




Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 10:03 am
 

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Seriously, Memphis is 2-2 against Big East teams.

Connecticut is 15-2 against Big East teams.

I'm not sure what that means, exactly.

But I'm pretty sure it means UConn should be ahead of Memphis on every ballot.

So, by this logic, all teams should be ranked based on thier performances against Big East teams? The Big East is good, but its not like it's the end-all be-all of college basketball and the standard by which every team should be graded. There are good teams in other conferences, too, you know.

And apart from that, Memphis hasn't really impressed me enough for me to personally consider them as a top-5 team. Sure the wins are there, but as will almost always be the case in C-USA, they don't have many quality wins. Gonzaga and Cincinatti are there two best OOC wins, IMO, and thats not sayin too much.

UCONN, on the other hand, I could more easily see as a top contender. The problem is similar to the SEC in football, though. As is the case there, the best wins that most Big East teams have on thier resumes are against other Big East teams, so it's a bit hard to judge.




Since: Dec 29, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:49 am
 

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Big Ben-Memphis is last years Tennesssee. Its not hard to get all those wins in the tough CUSA these days is it? And by the way, when Memphis finally wins a Nat'l Title call me......until then you are still a wannabe




Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:43 am
 

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Hey Smart Ass - why don't you ask your sissy coach in the white suit why he has refused to play Memphis each year since you guys left C-USA? Surely it would be a simple tune up game for your big time program and you'd have no trouble blowing us out like Notre Dame did you.  It used to be a good rivalry, but I guess you guys are too good for us now. 

Instead of bashing Memphis why don't you take a look at how good they are and have been for the last four years - check the NCAA tourney results, players sent to the NBA, top tier recruiting classes over the last 3-4 years then tell me Memphis is just overrated.  Got another top 5 class coming in next year, so screw you.



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Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:41 am
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Since: Dec 30, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:10 am
 

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Bwahahahahahahah...........Give me a break. Where was UNC in the real championship game? Oh yeah, KU took care of them, something Louisville couldn't do.

I would support UL being ahead of Memphis, but a top 5 team doesn't lose to Notre Dame by 33 points.

 

Last year the "real" championship game (due to brackets ) was held a few nights earlier--When UNC beat UL  in last 2 minutes .

 

 




Since: Sep 18, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:06 am
 

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Good point TZT, UNC's point differential is 19 points per game, while UCONN's is 11ppg.  Another argument in support of UNC's lofty ranking and consideration for the "other" first place votes.




Since: Dec 29, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:01 am
 

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Mempho-Fan-Just a few things I thought I would point out. You have a terrific coach and he is a hell of a recruiter. If you could hit free throws you would have a national championship. But, your team this year is not even close to last years team. If you make it to the Elite 8 then you should be happy because thats as far you could get with this years team. Go ahead and rebut all you want but your team would get smacked around by UConn this year. By the way, I enjoyed the Louisville Memphis rivalry for many years and wish it was still ongoing.




Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2009 9:00 am
 

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You Poor Delussional Memphis fans..........Keep trying to justify the top 5 ratings----Give it a break...   if Memphis had just Villanova, Marquette, W. Virg & Syracuse in their League--They'd finish 5th...   OH--  Now throw in Uconn, Pitt & Louisville---OUCH !!!..  ..This rating is NOT the top 5 teams   --it's the top 5 records-however obtained-& the most consistant wins--however obtained..Just WATCH the Games --It ain't Hard !!!     Really... Imagine playing teams with a Tabeet, Blair, Griffen, Hansbourough In the Middle or T-will-Clark &  Samuels Day in & day out ???  Get real & go back to Tulsa, Houston & Ignatious HS for that Consistancy & Record !!!

  Oh --For those who like to keep throwing in the Past 2 years ---This is NOT the same team !!  The notorious "one&done" thugs of Memphis of yesturyear were Not that good -- ie-Last year the "real" championship game (due to brackets ) was held a few nights earlier--When UNC beat UL  in last 2 minutes ...After that everything was anti-climatic... Soo.. buckle up for a very rough Ncaa this year & hope to get through a few rounds before the Reality hits you or Evens get hit with a Felony....

 



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