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Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

Posted on: March 10, 2009 1:11 am
Edited on: March 10, 2009 2:01 am

The NCAA tournament selection committee will have quite a decision to make.

Will they take Saint Mary's based on a 19-2 record with Patrick Mills?

Or will they pass on Saint Mary's because of a 46 RPI?

Honestly, who can tell at this point?

And though you know where I stand on the subject, I'd be lying if I wrote that the Gaels did anything but hurt themselves the past two days, because there's no debating Mills just had the two worst games of his season, which might provide certain committee members the ammunition they need to send Saint Mary's to the NIT.

Gonzaga pounded Saint Mary's late Monday.

You heard that by now, I'm sure.

But did you know Mills was 2-of-16 from the field in the 83-58 loss?

And that he was 3-of-12 from the field 24 hours earlier in a win over Portland?

Add it up, and Mills has missed 23 of 28 shots in his two performances since returning from a broken hand, including 14 of his 16 3-point attempts. That's rough by any measuring stick. And if the committee's excuse to omit Saint Mary's revolves around the theory that the team with this version of Mills isn't the same team that started 18-1 with a healthy Mills, well, they're going to have the stats to back it up, I'm afraid.

Category: NCAAB

Since: Jan 26, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 8:29 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

All you have to do is watch them play to know they are one of the best 35 at large teams. If North Carolina decided to leave the ACC before the season started and schedule only teams that were going to be ranked 200 or higher in the rpi, you would still know they are a top 5 team. St. Mary's body of work might now be top 35(debatable), but their record and talent sure is.  

Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 4:38 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

Why is there no doubt? Shouldn't you beat a couple of top 34 teams before you can class yourself with them? So I guess any reasonable person would assume UTEP or Santa Clara or Portland could be in the top 34 since they all beat St. Marys.

Since: Jan 26, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 4:06 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

If Mills plays well Friday against E. Washington they are in. There is no doubt with a healthy Mills that St. Mary's is one of the best 34 at large teams. No reasonable group of people with any basketball knowledge would be able to find 35 teams from the at large pool that are better.

Since: Sep 23, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2009 3:00 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

As a die-hard Zag fan I'd love to see the WCC get two teams in.  But as far as St. Mary's it.   Lets just say, for the sake of argument, St. Mary's had won last night. (3-9)  Gonzaga would still get in as probably a 6,7 or 8 seed.  St. Marys, however, would be no higher than a 9.  Why?  Because the Zags non-conference schedule include the likes of UCONN, MEM, TENN, MARY, WASH ST and ARIZ.  That's why.  Last year is a good case in point.  San Diego won the Conf. Tourney and was a 13 seed yet Gonzaga was a 7. (St. Marys - 10)  Non BCS conference teams must prove themselves worthy OUTSIDE their "weak" conference schedule.   I'd say St. Marys chances are 50-50 at best. 




Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 2:48 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

I feel your pain Denny, but it is hard for me to believe that no one will play Saint Marys. If Siena can come off a first round upset last year and get Tennessee, Pittsburgh, and Kansas to play them it is hard for me to believe that the Gaels can't line up a better non conference slate than they played. Sure it is unexpected that Oregon and S. Illinois are going to be that bad, but they were and thats the facts. What really hurts St. Marys is the 0-3 against Gonzaga. If they would have won one of those they would probably be in. But to me that shows they can't beat a quality NCAA team, because that is really the only one they played. I just don't see how wins over Utah State, SDSU, and Providence are NCAA berth impressive, but hey I am not on the commitee, so you have that going for you.Laughing

Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 10, 2009 1:08 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

Did you guys see that scar on his hand?  There's no way he's going to be 100%!  It looked like they cut his hand in half and then sewed it back together.. gross!


Since: Jan 16, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 1:07 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet


"Please list 10-15 schools that should dance instead of us that are ranked outside of the Top-25. Looking strictly at hard numbers and facts, how many of those schools have better resumes than SMC?"

Sure thing.  I used the coaches poll.  Here are twelve teams, ranked outside the top 25, that have a much better resume than Saint Marys.  On paper or otherwise.

Dayton, Utah, BYU, California, Boston College, Texas, Siena, Texas A&M, West Virginia, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Tennessee.

You could probably also include Penn State and Michigan.  And there are about a dozen other teams that are arguable, but do not clearly have a stronger resume. 

I think Saint Marys belongs in, but they are definitely resting precariously on the bubble.


Since: Nov 17, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2009 12:59 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

SouthKnox...Teams like Wake Forest and Clemson WOULD NOT SCHEDULE SMC in 2009!!! We tried to schedule good/great teams. We did not intend to have a weak SOS ranking or for Oregon, Southern Ill., etc. to have down years. Those two issues + Mills injury = just plain cruddy timing. I really wish Gary or the ESPN analysts would get the FACTS about mid-major scheduling woes out in the open (Oh, wait, that would offend the big boys with the big bank rolls---shhhh!!!).

We can't beat (or compete with) teams that refuse to play us. We can't even schedule Cal and Stanford and they're both within an hour of our campus! Please see the "Utah argument"...we played our schedule and did about as well as we could with or without Mills. The Gaels deserve their 3rd trip to the NCAA's in five years.


Since: Mar 1, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2009 12:44 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

Hey SMC13, I appreciate your passion for your team, they just aren't worthy of the tournament based on their resume. I know it hurts but it is what it is. I stand corrected on their record in the top 100, you should know their record better since you drink their bathwater. Allow me to correct you on a few things though, but I will refrain from name calling. Florida has an RPI of 48, not 86. Auburn 5-9 against top 100, with wins over Tennessee RPI 23 and LSU 37, St. Marys 3-4 with wins over Utah State 27 and SDSU 43, how exactly does that make your resume better with less wins and less quality against top 50? You call out Maryland for two sub 100 losses, but conveniently leave out the two of your own Santa Clara 193 and Portland 117. Not to mention Maryland has 5 more top 100 wins but somehow you see your resume better than theirs, which is illogical. Minnesota has a ridiculous edge over you, They have 5 top 50 wins and beat the Big East champ not the ninth place Big East team. I love the way you suggest that all of these major conference teams missing oppurtunities against top foes from their conference are blemishes when St. Marys gagged every time they played the Zags. Ask yourself a question, Who have you beaten that will be in the NCAA tournament? Compare it to who the other bubble teams have beaten. It isn't even close. Your team has played the 160th ranked schedule in the country! Your resume is weak and you lost 3 times to the only team that was worth a damn on your schedule. The NIT will gladly have you.

Since: Mar 4, 2008
Posted on: March 10, 2009 12:44 pm

Patrick Mills doesn't look exactly right just yet

I'm a huge WCC fan but I can't see St. Mary's in the dance.  I had been hoping Portland would finish off the season well and in second place in the WCC, because with their win over U. of Washington, I thought they had a better resume than the Gaels.   The way it came down, GU is the only tourney team in this conference.  Maybe they'll let the Zags in the Atlantic 10 some day.  Xavier v. Gonzaga every year would be fun for both schools, even if it would make no sense geographically. 

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