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The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Posted on: April 8, 2009 5:09 pm
Edited on: April 8, 2009 5:14 pm
 

First Xavier Henry asked for a release from his national letter of intent with Memphis.

Then DeMarcus Cousins decommitted from Memphis and committed to Kentucky

Now Nolan Dennis wants a release from Memphis, too.

"We just want people to know that we are not going to attend Memphis because we were going to attend Memphis because of (John) Calipari," Carol Dennis, the mother of Nolan Dennis, told Scout.com's Evan Daniels on Wednesday. “We are going to wait and see what we are going to do from here.

"I think Nolan wants to go to Kentucky; I’m not for sure," she added. "But I know he’s not going to go to Memphis."

Just last week, Memphis had a five-player class some considered the best in the county, but Calipari's departure has killed any chance of it materializing. Junior college standouts Will Coleman and Darnell Dodson are the only Memphis recruits who haven't publicly decommitted.

Meantime, Josh Pastner isn't sleeping.

Literally.

The new Memphis coach has not slept in days.

"I haven't slept since I got the job (on Monday)," Pastner told me this afternoon. "I've been up 48 hours straight."

Yikes.

Pastner said he plans to be in bed by 10 on Wednesday night, get a solid six or seven hours of sleep and be ready to hit the road recruiting Thursday. He'll start in the Memphis area, where Class of 2010 star Joe Jackson (of White Station High) is a clear priority.

Comments

Since: Feb 18, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:23 pm
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 

halo you know just as much as I do recruits do it all the time to every team ! xavier i dont thinks goin to UK cousins wasnt signed . at UK orton asked out of his letter. so it happens to everyone ! i havent heard other than what his mom said about  nolan and wheres he goin ! Uk doesnt have alot of scolarships available. , well they didnt . with porter and a few of incomin freshman arent comin/gone not sure how many we have then . but IT does happen to everyone. GO BIG BLUE!

also i thought rod strickland was goin to stay at his alma matter but nows hes at UK i was hoppin hed get ayt least 1 old Uk player like most coaches (my pick would be Delk )

 




Since: Mar 2, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:22 pm
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 College sports should not be about the program it should be about the kids. These kids are not under contract and are making no money. Thus, a kid can go wherever they want for any reason.

A kid chooses a school for a coach and they choose to leave when the coach leaves then OK. If a kid leaves a school because he woke up on the wrong side of the pillow then OK. These kids owe the university's NOTHING.

The kid or the scholarship donee's are paying the university's so if anything the university's owe the kid.

 

And this comment is all that is now wrong with College Sports.  The University is there to provide an education. We have become so focused on the sports part we now minimize the "student" athelete down to just an athlete. The University doesn't owe the kid anything, and the scholarships are coming out of the school budget.  While I agree kids want to play for a coach, the top players coming out of high school have turned this upside down now. And what kind of kid leaves a school because he woke up on the wrong side of the pillow? This is the moral fortitude that is killing this country. "Its all about me" mentality (including Cal), has perverted college sports to a point that its more like "minor leagues" for pro teams now.

Sorry, but this post really rubbed me the wrong way, and I dont think I'm speaking just for fans of the University of Memphis in commenting on it.




Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:09 pm
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 I would agree if the players wanted to attend Memphis because they have a desire to attend the school. Honestly they want to play for coach Cal. That being said would you punish the kids for wanting out of the Memphis deal? Calipari was the reason they committed to go there for not for the sake of playing at Memphis.  

      
; Let me make this perfectly clear. I dont blame any kid for wanting to leave and I dont blame any kid for wanting to follow the coach they signed on with. WITH THAT SAID

      When a coach leaves one school for another school there are always going to be kids that get punished. Its unavoidable. You dont think Doneal Mack (a senior) or Wesley Witherspoon (a sophmore) feel like they are getting the shaft??? Of course they do. They went to play for a coach too. There are players at Kentucky that are getting punished. Some of them committed to play for a University and coach only to have a new one come in and tell them that they dont fit the system.

     Its fine for a coach to want to leave for another coaching position. However, (and this is the last time I am going to repeat myself in this thread) its UNETHICAL AND CLASSLESS TO ALLOW PLAYERS RECRUITED ON THE MEMPHIS DIME TO FOLLOW HIM TO ANOTHER UNIVERSITY.......I DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT IS SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS......ROY WILLIAMS WOULDNT ALLOW IT....BOB HUGGINS WOULDNT ALLOW IT....BILL SELF WOULDNT ALLOW IT...... he basically sold himself and potential recruits to a university....he used players for his own financial gain and future rewards...... GET IT???? this is why these other coaches refused players to follow.....they dont want this haunting their reputation......CALIPARI DOESNT CARE !!!




Since: Nov 16, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2009 11:49 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 

 

JOHN CALIPARI WILL PROVE HE HAS NO CLASS

 

 

I would agree if the players wanted to attend Memphis because they have a desire to attend the school. Honestly they want to play for coach Cal. That being said would you punish the kids for wanting out of the Memphis deal? Calipari was the reason they committed to go there for not for the sake of playing at Memphis.  

 




Since: Feb 5, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 10:44 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Really, check Kansas' last two titles. Chalmers & Manning. Both with daddy sitting on the bench.  




Since: Aug 14, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 9:54 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

It's good to see people across the country still care and think about Memphis good or bad. Over twelve pages on this thread prove it. Don't lie to yourself, you know who you are. You either love Memphis or hate Memphis, but you do think about Memphis..lol

Now this is a fact!!! 




Since: Mar 30, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 9:50 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

he has not set the program back 10 years..yes, it will take time to rebuild and get top recruits...it took cal about 6 years to get top recruits to memphis..he knows what he has gotten into, you have to give him a chance..we still have many great players staying so wait until you open your mouth about our program..he will get good guys in here this year they just might not be top 10 names, but that doesn't mean they are not good players..




Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: April 9, 2009 6:21 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 

You are correct, in theory.  However, in reality, you are misunderstanding who is in charge of where a kid plays.   While kids can choose the school they want, Roy Williams and Bill Self, when arriving at UNC and Kansas respectively, both told their recruits from their previous school "yes, we would love to have you, but it is not right for me to take recruits from my prior school, so DON'T follow me."

While these kids certainly could have walked on, when the coach says "no scholarhip for player X" they are on their own.     Even if the school decided to go against the coaches' wish, guess who would never see the court.  The COACH not the PLAYER holds all the power here. 

What Calipari did is wholly unethical.  While he publicly stated "I told all kids to stay with Memphis" he was privately recruiting these kids to follow him to Kentucky.   While not illegal, it is dirty pool, and exactly the opposite of the way the classier Roy Williams and Bill Self handled an identical situation.

The result is that he guts the Memphis program and sets them back 10 years.    Not exactly an upstanding thing  to do to the school who gave you a chance when nobody wanted you, gave you everything you ever asked for to build a program, and offered you millions upon millions to stay and coach.

 




Since: Apr 8, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 5:09 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

I cant remember the one kids name that tried I didn't know any recruit literally "tried" but the two that KU nation were most concerned about were J.R. Giddens and David Padgett.  Both attended KU for at least one year.  Padgett transferred to Lewisville and J.R. Giddens was asked to transfer after a bar-fight.  He ended up at New Mexico and is currently in the Celtics organization.

A standout high school player who Roy, as KU's head coach, had been recruiting heavily, named Hansbrough, from Poplar Bluffs MO, did change his affiliation from KU to UNC and did ultimtely declare for UNC.  So Roy's leaving did cost KU Hansbrough but in his defense he had not yet formally committed to any university.

 

 




Since: Apr 3, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2009 4:58 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

big difference.. you go to kansas to go to kansas and to be coached by roy williams, you go to memphis to be coached by calipari.. and ... well that's pretty much it.

 

not that any of his (RW) players would have followed him.. his recuits found out through the media, they didn't even get a call.. and well... they weren't too happy..

 

all 4 went to kansas for at least a year (becuase it's KANSAS).. i doubt that would happen even if calipari slammed the door at UK. except for maybe the transfers.. one of the HS'ers would go to.. well.. proabably KU, seeing as both of the parents of one of the recruits played there.. if not there.. then yes UK

i'm sorry for memphis, but i fail to see the arguments.. so you're going to screw the kids twice.. telling them you're leaving, and they can't follow?  you know how much time and consideration they put into deciding the school and to say, you can't come with me, the coach who told you i'd coach you.. and AT kentucky, an elite program?  i think he'd be classless if he DIDN'T invite his recruits to UK...

 

nothing against RW.. he was my favorite coach back in the day, and the move to UNC was even sweeter.. but he had the cupboards full at UNC (some awkward looking kid named hansborough, as well as green, ginyard, and frasor).. and having his KU recruits come would just be a scholarship nightmare (assuming any of them wanted to come)

 

interesting to see how this plays out, i could see UK getting as high as #2 (ha, to UNC) in the recruiting rankings.. anyways..



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