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The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Posted on: April 8, 2009 5:09 pm
Edited on: April 8, 2009 5:14 pm
 

First Xavier Henry asked for a release from his national letter of intent with Memphis.

Then DeMarcus Cousins decommitted from Memphis and committed to Kentucky

Now Nolan Dennis wants a release from Memphis, too.

"We just want people to know that we are not going to attend Memphis because we were going to attend Memphis because of (John) Calipari," Carol Dennis, the mother of Nolan Dennis, told Scout.com's Evan Daniels on Wednesday. “We are going to wait and see what we are going to do from here.

"I think Nolan wants to go to Kentucky; I’m not for sure," she added. "But I know he’s not going to go to Memphis."

Just last week, Memphis had a five-player class some considered the best in the county, but Calipari's departure has killed any chance of it materializing. Junior college standouts Will Coleman and Darnell Dodson are the only Memphis recruits who haven't publicly decommitted.

Meantime, Josh Pastner isn't sleeping.

Literally.

The new Memphis coach has not slept in days.

"I haven't slept since I got the job (on Monday)," Pastner told me this afternoon. "I've been up 48 hours straight."

Yikes.

Pastner said he plans to be in bed by 10 on Wednesday night, get a solid six or seven hours of sleep and be ready to hit the road recruiting Thursday. He'll start in the Memphis area, where Class of 2010 star Joe Jackson (of White Station High) is a clear priority.

Comments

Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 3:10 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

I find it laughable that people belittle the Memphis program and are apt to give most if not all the credit for the Tigers' success (wins and recruits) solely to Calipari. Calipari and Memphis benefited from each other and made for a great team. Memphis gave Calipari a chance after he failed in the NBA and gave him the time and resources (ie. NBA arena to play in, a rabid fan base, supreme control of the program) to build a winner. These qualities that Memphis offers is why Pastner will succeed in his place, especially if he builds a strong staff of coaches. As for the recruits, I feel like they should go anywhere they feel is best for them even if it means following Cal to Kentucky as the allegiances of recruits are given nowadays to the coaches and not the actual schools. Xavier got the ultimate shaft from Calipari among all the recruits as his goal was to play with his brother, which was/is a sure bet at Memphis but highly unlikely if he pursues another school. Finally, I don't care what team you root for but if they had commitments from players with the caliber of Henry, Cousins, Dennis, 2 highly rated JUCOs and a frontrunner for John Wall to add to an already competitive team you'd be just as frustrated and bitter.   




Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: April 9, 2009 1:56 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 College sports should not be about the program it should be about the kids. These kids are not under contract and are making no money. Thus, a kid can go wherever they want for any reason.

A kid chooses a school for a coach and they choose to leave when the coach leaves then OK. If a kid leaves a school because he woke up on the wrong side of the pillow then OK. These kids owe the university's NOTHING.

The kid or the scholarship donee's are paying the university's so if anything the university's owe the kid.

 




Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 1:40 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Get real! Without Calipari these kids wouldn't have thought about Memphis. Memphis had nothing to do with any of these kids signing. Just as Kentucky will have nothing to do with the fact they will come there. It's all about the coaches (90 %) of the time. Really who would want to come play and live in Memphis if they didn't have to. As far as that goes, I can't understand why all the kids that can don't go to the warm climent areas.




Since: Apr 7, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 1:25 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

William Coleman has already committed to Memphis and Dodson is not to far behind! Matt Eisele will join the staff to help Pastner. Eisele and Pastner have known each other for five years and have a great friendship! Eisele is in the same mood of pastner. Started from the bottom and works his ass off. He built a powerhouse in two year.

Miami Dade sent 9 kids Division 1 this year. 2 to Memphis, 1 to Minnesota, 1 is on the verge of signing with UCONN, and the other Big Name James Beatty could follow to Memphis as well. Miami Dade finished 27-2 and 3rd in the country this year. What an amazing team.

Eisele is suppose to bring 2 6'10 2010 recruits with him as well. Sounds like a no brainer!




Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2009 1:23 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 Why dont you start this thread over when some GD committed players have signed on with UK. So far there are zero to do so but there are 12 pages of crap here.

 

HAHAHAHAH....thats funny but, I must argue this point...... Calipari has not publically said he would turn down any of these players. I think its safe to assume that if they want to come over that he will let them. With that fair assumption I would pledge that these 12 pages are not crap regardless of whether or not they choose to come. However, get ready for a hell of a lot more conversation in regards to this subject if some of them do in fact end up signing on under Caliparis approval.

LOL....




Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 1:23 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Hey guy, you are not making any sense, or you need to at least get your facts straight before you comment. That is crazy to hate a college because of the coach...not that anyone cares anyway. As far as Pastner not being a good recruit because he could only get 2 of 5 players recruited, the man was awarded the job a little more than 48hrs ago. What could you do in that amount of time. Here is a guy who has just communicating to these recruits Cal Cal Cal Cal, while being on his coaching staff, and now he has to come at these same recruits from a totally different approach, and I don't think that you are going to see him working over time to recruit a player, who hasn't even taken the ACT and may have to sit out the 1st season. The jury isn't out yet on Xavier Henry; he asked for his release from his national letter of intent prior to Memphis hiring Pastner as coach, so there is still an opportunity for him to suit up in a U of M Tiger uniform next season.  The rest of that foolishness that you are talking about is nonsense and not worth commenting on.




Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:55 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

University of Memphis  Basketball is going to be fine, and Coach Pastner will have this team ready, once basketball season rolls around again. The conversation regarding Demarcus Cousins need to stop, at least until his eligibility status is confirmed, and that will not be known until the young man has at least attempted to take the ACT, for the 1st time. Memphis has been and will always continue to be a hot bed for talented high school basketball players, and it is nice to have a coach that will reconnect with the local high school basketball scene in Memphis. With this being said, Nolan Dennis will be easily replaced.  Everyone seems to have an opinion about Memphis basketball, even the individual from Michigan, who really shouldn't be saying anything....shameful, we will let the play on the hardwood speak for us next season. Go Tiger!




Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:47 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 

Couldn't happen to a more slimy, disgusting

 program like Memphis.  There time in the sun is over, let the NCAA infractions committee take over now that St. Cal is no longer employed.  How does the NCAA allow this type of cheating?

 

haha michigan still plays basketball- let's talk about cheating, big blue (nutsac)

 

The University of Michigan basketball scandal or Ed Martin scandal was a six-year investigation of the relationship between the , its and Ed Martin. As a result of the investigation, the men's basketball program was punished for numerous rules violations, principally involving payments booster Martin made to several players to from an illegal operation. It is one of the largest incidents involving payments to college athletes in American collegiate history. An initial investigation by the school was joined by the NCAA, , (FBI), (IRS), and the (DOJ).

 

 

 

 




Since: Mar 9, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:42 am
 

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Well I think people should really know what this process is before they just jump to conclusions and make statements they know nothing about.

First; National Letter of Intent. This is a standardized contract between a student athlete and a University.  Although you only sign it once it is only good for one year and renewable on an annual basis until the athlete's eligibility is completed. Once this contract is signed rules apply regarding the recruitment process of that student athlete. This also starts the process of having the athlete become eligible. I say this because even someone who is not offered a scholarship has to sign this contract.

Note: If you verbally committed to one institution, you are allowed to sigh a letter of intent with a different school. If the athlete is under the age of 21 a parent or legal guardian must also sign the letter of intent to make it a legally binding document.

From the story above.

DeMarcus Cousins decommitted from Memphis and committed to Kentucky. Cousins had only verbally committed meaning that he had not entered into an agreement with the University of Memphis.  Usually when an athlete verbally commits to a school the recruiting process is ended. Until the contract is signed a coach can continue to have contact with this athlete. It may seem unethical as some have mentioned but legal to do so. This is no different that when he had committed to the University of Alabama Birmingham and then decided to come to Memphis.  He also has not taken the ACT or SAT. Time is running out on this but I am sure if Wes wants Cousins to go to Kentucky they will drop their admission standards and he will come up with a score somehow.

Xavier Henry  and Nolan Dennis athletes are a different story.

Because the University of Memphis had added an addendum to the original contract there is an out clause for the ones who actually signed their letters of Intent to attend Memphis. The addendum had a stipulation that the current coach (not sure if Calipari's name was actually in the document)  left the student athlete could void the contract. Some people have ridiculed R C Johnson for this. I really see no need. If the student athlete has competed for the University he has transfer rules. If not then do you really want someone who does not really want to attend the University? Most schools let the athlete out of their contracts if there are valid circumstances.

Now I am not positive if and when they will be let out of their contracts or the exact process, filings with the NCAA etc. I know that R C Johnson was not available last week since he was trying to find a coach.  This is important because as long as they still have legal contracts with the University of Memphis other coaches can not have any contact with these kids or their parents if they signed the contracts as well.  If they do this could be a violation of NCAA rules and the athlete's eligibility with that institution could come into question.

I believe that Xavier stated that the reason he wanted to play basketball for the University of Memphis was he wanted to play with his brother.  He may be able to get out of his letter of intent but the transfer rules will apply. Now if he just wants to be on the same team that is one thing if he wants to play with him next year that will probably be at Memphis.  Time will tell on this on I would say its 50/50 at this point.

Pastner needs to hit the road recruiting that is for sure. First he needs to recruit some assistant coaches. Although he does not need to fill his complete staff I think that some of the parents need to know the direction he is going and his staff will say a lot to that. He needs to sell the Carols Dennis of the world as well.

He then needs to get the best possible class he can for the 2009-2010 season. Will it be the class we expected a few weeks ago when we lost to Missouri in the NCAA. Probably not. That class was not just being billed as the best for next year if John Wall had committed even verbally it would have been one of the best if not the best ever.

Now we all still have ill feelings for Calipari. That is to be expected. We also know that he is committed to winning at any cost and we expect nothing less than that even though he is doing it for Kentucky and not Memphis.

We also expect Josh to do all he can to continue the tradition that is Memphis basketball. The program will be fine. The basketball will be fine. The city will be fine. Just relax and let the local and even some national media use this to their advantage. They are going to have post like "The Memphis class continues to fall apart"  to get hits. They need their economy stimulated as well.

 

 

 




Since: Apr 28, 2008
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:41 am
 

Memphis still classy Cal, not so much

 

Last I checked highschool players can choose their school not the other way around. Roy might have said he didnt want players to change their mind on his behalf, however if somone wanted to go to UNC instead of KU that year, and UNC wanted them , he could certainly change his mind and go there. Cal is a class act, and the best recruiter in college basketball which is why his recruits want to follow that guy wherever he coaches. Josh Pastner isnt going to get you to the NBA, Coach Cal will. 

 

 

 once you sign a LOI with a school you're committed to go to that school unless there are certain provisions granting you a release and w/out that escape clause a school doesn't have to release the athlete.. 

Cal recently convinced our athletic department to allow these clauses in the LOIs stating that we wouldn't be able to sign top guys w/out them... which was BS, he was just preparing a way for these guys to follow him to another school- truly it was a classless move.. Get ready KY, he's gonna do it to you too-

BTW who do you think the lead recruiter was for Xavier and Nolan.. Pastner. We'll get our players- There is enough talent w/in 50 miles of Memphis to win a NC.. Cal let the local kids go and recruited nationally. thaddeus young, elliot williams, leslie mcdonald, ferrakohn hall, maurice miller, joe jackson, casey prather.. the list goes on and on- all memphis boys-  like JP said we are going back to our roots and recruit from the inside out..

 



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