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The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Posted on: April 8, 2009 5:09 pm
Edited on: April 8, 2009 5:14 pm

First Xavier Henry asked for a release from his national letter of intent with Memphis.

Then DeMarcus Cousins decommitted from Memphis and committed to Kentucky

Now Nolan Dennis wants a release from Memphis, too.

"We just want people to know that we are not going to attend Memphis because we were going to attend Memphis because of (John) Calipari," Carol Dennis, the mother of Nolan Dennis, told's Evan Daniels on Wednesday. “We are going to wait and see what we are going to do from here.

"I think Nolan wants to go to Kentucky; I’m not for sure," she added. "But I know he’s not going to go to Memphis."

Just last week, Memphis had a five-player class some considered the best in the county, but Calipari's departure has killed any chance of it materializing. Junior college standouts Will Coleman and Darnell Dodson are the only Memphis recruits who haven't publicly decommitted.

Meantime, Josh Pastner isn't sleeping.


The new Memphis coach has not slept in days.

"I haven't slept since I got the job (on Monday)," Pastner told me this afternoon. "I've been up 48 hours straight."


Pastner said he plans to be in bed by 10 on Wednesday night, get a solid six or seven hours of sleep and be ready to hit the road recruiting Thursday. He'll start in the Memphis area, where Class of 2010 star Joe Jackson (of White Station High) is a clear priority.


Since: Apr 9, 2009
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:38 am

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Why dont you start this thread over when some GD committed players have signed on with UK. So far there are zero to do so but there are 12 pages of crap here.


Since: Nov 5, 2007
Posted on: April 9, 2009 12:02 am

The Memphis class continues to fall apart


I don't see other programs... UConn, Kansas, Duke, UNC, Mich St, etc having to hire 'dads, friends, coaches' of players just to get them to attend



Before someone else jumps all over your assertion, let me air the names Manning and Chalmers -- which are certain to be raised among many at these colleges as well as others:

In the mid 1980s, Larry Brown took over the Kansas program which had languished in mediocrity since the mandatory (age 70) retirement of Forrest C. 'Phog' Allen after Wilt Chamberlain's (non-playing) freshman year, in 1955.  Brown hired one of the teammates from his pro playing days, Ed Manning, who moved to Lawrence where his son, Danny, finished high school and went on to the local university.  When Brown moved on to the Spurs, so did Ed and he stayed with them longer than Brown did.  Incidentally, in 1988 Danny was team captain, NCAA final four MVP, and Naismith POY, number 1 in NBA draft where he played over ten years despite numerous knee surgeries.  Ed was good at his job, but that won't matter to the finger pointers.

In the mid 2000s, Bill Self recruited one of the most remarkable classes in the history of a school accustomed to wallowing in the plethora of talent Roy Williams had attracted for 15 years.  One of those recruits came from the suburbs of Anchorage, AK, where his father, Ronny, had coached several state championship teams.  When this recruit, Mario, left home to enroll a few thousand miles away, his parents decided that seeing him play through his college years was worth uprooting the family and moving to Lawrence.  During the fall of Mario's freshman season, a job on the KU staff for which Ronny was, if anything, overqualified became open.  Ronny applied and was hired about the time basketball practice started.  In 2008, Mario earned the same FF MVP award his (asst) coach had garnered 20 years earlier, was drafted into the NBA, where he now sidekicks with Dwayne Wade for the Miami Heat.  Ronny was good at his job, but that won't matter to the finger pointers.


Before saying "Dad got the job because Son had game," why don't we stop to think about the part Dad had in that and whether that kind of Dad would probably be pretty good at most jobs.


These topics resonate strongly for me, because I lived through them in reverse.  My Dad was a very successful HS football coach (72% wins over 21 years), and always apprehensive of the import small midwestern towns place on their football teams.  I was the smallest kid in my class from kindergarten through tenth grade (started HS weighing 82 lbs).  For five years, beginning 7th grade, I carried the medicine kit and water bottles, suiting up for practice after managerial duties and sweeping out the locker room.  At those practices, I worked out with the 3rd-4th string, helping everyone else remember play assignments and filling in at whatever position needed a body.  Junior year I grew three inches and 25+ pounds.  That year Dad's ulcer got bad enough that he stepped out of coaching, continuing to teach in the same school.  The next fall, I was helping the new coach lay out pads and practice pants for the first day of practice, when he asked, "Will you be coming out for the team?"  "Sure," I replied.  "What's your position?"  "Well, we're pretty well set for a starting line-up, but Marvin had his appendix out this month, so we'll need a center the first few games."  Incredulity would be a kind description of his countenance.   After 3 weeks of practice, I started the first game on defense (most kids then played both ways in small schools), and backed up a big sophomore at offensive center.  Second game, opening kickoff, he got the full imprint of seven (metal tipped nylon) cleats in the small of his back.  I played center on offense, guard (6-man line) on defense for the second place team in our league.  In late November, all the other teachers were congratulating Dad and me, but it was next day we realized it was for being named a finalist in state-wide scholarship test.  What Dad and I had noticed in the paper was the very last name among the honorable mentions for both all-league and all-NWKs area football teams -- J R....., 5'9", 135#.  At that time, high school linemen for schools in small towns ranged from 150 to 180, with maybe a 200 pounder every 4-5 years.

Dad told me later that his ulcer was one reason for not coaching that year.  Giving me a chance to play was the other, and he didn't want anyone saying, "John couldn't play if his Dad wasn't the coach."

That is indeed what many would have said, no matter how much I earned my spot on the team.  

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:57 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

Actually, he called recruits in that "dead" period of "thinking" about accepting the job because he could NOT call once he accepted the job!!!


Since: Feb 17, 2008
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:55 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart


Couldn't happen to a more slimy, disgusting


 program like Memphis.  There time in the sun is over, let the NCAA infractions committee take over now that St. Cal is no longer employed.  How does the NCAA allow this type of cheating?



Please elaborate a little. Anyone can make an accusation, like  " why doesn't the NCAA investigate John Beilein for taking hot steamy showers with the wolverine mascot"  Please list the infractions.

Since: Apr 7, 2009
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:53 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart


For crying out loud... proper word use, please.  Perhaps you should steer away from words like their, they're and there.  You make yourself sound really ignorant.

Since: Nov 1, 2008
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:48 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

 Hey GandyTiger

At least I got to see it before it got deleted. 

Everyone else, The Tigers will make the NCAA tournament next season.  Just with the players coming back next season, we are better than more than half the SEC and good enough to win the CUSA.  Of course it will be a little tougher this season but we'll be good enough. 


Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:45 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

  he went to a better program and a more storied program.



more storied, yes

a better program?....I guess I missed KY in the BIG dance this year...or the championship game alst year...or the elite 8's two years before...Oh wait, is that better?  Memphis won it a few years ago if my memory serves me correctly, just like UK did this y...oh wait, they didn't win it did they?...Oh well, that still makes it better, huh?

Get a grip on "it" will get everything you asked for in Coach you did with Tubby and Billie....good luck!

Since: Mar 24, 2008
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:41 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

This comment will be deleted but you are a FUCKING idiot!!!!!!!!! 

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:27 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart


 Didn't someone sing a song named "my o'le Kentucky whore"? 

That is how the KY fans should feel.  They just went and bought the most expensive whore on the street.  These KY whores, will cheer the players that are decommitting/transfering from MEMPHIS to KY.  If these players had attended Memphis the KY whores would have called them thugs.  KY fans are nothing more than whores.  Pay the most to get what someone else has.


TO Memphis fans.  Kick the shit out of any KY fan you see.  Brick to side of head would work.

Since: Mar 2, 2009
Posted on: April 8, 2009 11:22 pm

The Memphis class continues to fall apart

LOL... I'm stunned at the length of this thread.  To all the Memphis posters (yes I'm one) I say we forget about what we can't control, and start focusing on what we've got going.  To the poster that said Calipari made Memphis, gimme a break.  Calipari brought Memphis back to where it had been before, and will be again.  Is Postner the guy to take us there? I hope so.  I'm supporting him 100%.  The guy has some brass ones to take this on as his first gig.  I hope he's ready. I'll say this, he sounds ready. Very good communicator.  He'll get some good recruits. 

I'm banking on "karma" (as someone said earlier) actually blessing us.  I think Pastner will actually recruit better long term athletes, IE guys that will stay 3 or 4 years.  The whisper on him is that he has a Knack for seeing talent that can be developed.  Give me Antonio Anderson and Chris Douglas-Roberts all day over 99% of the one and dones. (There are exceptions, ie Rose). But Memphis will be back, maybe sooner than a lot hope.  Would not surprise me if we get in the tourney this year.  I do not think we'll have a 1 or 2 seed, but who knows... Coach Paz may pull a recruit or 2 outta his azz and we'll be laughing all the way to March next year! 

Have a great one guys!  Go Tigers 

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