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Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

Posted on: April 15, 2009 11:01 pm
Edited on: April 16, 2009 12:48 am

John Wall told on Wednesday that he will not enter the 2009 NBA Draft.

"I'm going to school for one or two years and trying to win a national championship," Wall said, and that might mean something if I hadn't spent years listening to one lottery pick after another swear they were putting off NBA riches only to reverse course a few weeks later. Mike Conley and Jonny Flynn come to mind, just off the top of my head.

So no, I do not believe this Wall-to-the-NBA story is over.

Not yet, regardless of what anybody says -- and the reason is because of Wall's 13-point, 11-assist, five-steal performance in Sunday's Nike Hoops Summit that made NBA people start to ask why the nation's top-rated point guard isn't seriously considering the NBA Draft given that there seems to be a loophole that would allow him to enter despite the fact that he's still technically a high school player.

According to the age-limit rule, an American-born player can be eligible for the draft if the player is at least 19 years old during the calendar year of the draft, plus one NBA season removed from his high school graduation or one NBA season removed from the date on which he should've graduated high school. Nobody is disputing that Wall is already 19, and sources have confirmed to that he began high school in August 2004, meaning Wall should've graduated in May 2008, i.e., before this NBA season began. In other words, if Wall applied for the draft the NBA might really have to approve his application, and even if the organization initially fought Wall's inclusion industry sources believe there isn't a decent attorney who couldn't win a lawsuit based on the ambiguity of the rule.

Asked if he could imagine a scenario under which Wall's application for the NBA Draft would be denied, Sonny Vaccaro, a longtime person of influence in the sport, answered quickly. "No," Vaccaro told on Wednesday night. "I'm going to say 'No' because I'm reading the rule."

Vaccaro said he has spoken with "a number" of NBA scouts in the past three days.

"They've all told me (Wall) would go in the top eight," Vaccaro said. "Nobody has said he'd go lower than eight."

Wall is now in New York preparing for Saturday's Jordan Brand Classic.

At tip-off, rest assured there will be many interested viewers.

"Somebody from every lottery team will be there," Vaccaro said. "There is no question in my mind."

Worth noting: The eighth pick in this NBA Draft will receive a guaranteed two-year contract worth roughly $4.3 million.

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Since: Jan 27, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2009 5:36 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

Regarding the kid possibly getting injured, you can purchase insurance whereby the insurance company pays up if that happens.  The NCAA allows the insurance to be purchased and not mess up the player's amateur status (see, the NCAA can get things right every now and then).

I suppose one fly in the ointment is if this financial meltdown has affected the availability of these kinds of policies.  If not, he can play CBB easily. If not (and I'm not saying that to be the case; I don't know), then it would probably be foolish for him to bypass the NBA.

Since: Jan 31, 2007
Posted on: April 20, 2009 4:21 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet


"I'm going to school for one or two years and trying to win a national championship," Wall said.


If the kid wants to go to college then there should be no problem with that.

There are way too many instances where people say kids need to get their education and that they need to mature and whatnot. On the other hand, there are tons of cases where people say if the guy has talent then he should go pro. Neither opinion is wrong..

However, if I grew up dreaming of winning a National Championship in college and then going pro, I would make it happen if given the choice. It's sad that anyone can oppose his choice or desire for wanting to be in college. This isn't the story of our basketball career; it's his. Therefore - all the power to him.




Since: Jan 27, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2009 2:24 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

I can't say I''m shocked about it, but if I'm the NBA or the player's association, I'm wondering how the attorneys could come draft a rule that apparently is so ambiguous it wouldn't stand up in court.  Aren't those lawyers paid big money?

And it's not like Wall is the first hot shot b-ball player who wasn't a stellar performer in the academic arena.  Furthermore, is it really that surprising that a kid might take 5 years to get out of HS? 

Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: April 20, 2009 9:31 am

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

 If he goes to KY, it wouldn't be to "play at Kentucky".  It would be to play for Cal.  Remeber, he was a thug who was planning to attend Memphis before Cal moved to KY.

Since: Feb 9, 2008
Posted on: April 20, 2009 8:10 am

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!......DON't make us UK fans laugh!!!!.......

no jus kidding, i actually would like to see that...That would be a good game... 

Since: Mar 26, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2009 12:22 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

If Wall comes to college for one year and performs to everyone's expectations, he will be the number one pick in the 2010 draft.

As for where he'll play, apparently his "handler" clifton is an AAU coach and would be in a position, at the right time, to direct him to an agent.  Some writers have been surprised that Wall was interested in playing for Calipari at Memphis, and now at Kentucky, because World Wide Wes' sports agency (Wes himself is not an agent) gets a lot of the top players from Cal's program once they become pros. Clifton is not in league with WWW and apparently has his own connections and ideas about Wall's future representation.  Of course it's always possible a deal would be worked out, so that Wall gets the exposure and coaching he needs for one year, and Clifton still gets his way on the agent issue.



Since: Nov 13, 2007
Posted on: April 18, 2009 12:03 am

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

Wall came out and said he promised his dead father and his mother he would go to at least 1 year of college. His mother is ill, so I think this kid will go to college.

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: April 17, 2009 2:49 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

Im getting tired of this "John wall sweepstakes" yes hes a good player and looks like the second coming of derrick rose. But this is getting old now he might go nba, his list of possible schools is getting bigger each week and soon might even stretch to west coast with ucla/usc. Pick a school already, its getting to the point where i personally dont care where he goes Uk, kansas , duke or miami just pick a school. in the long run if he happens to somehow not live up to the hype its gonna hurt him alot more esp with all this media around him.

Since: Nov 30, 2008
Posted on: April 17, 2009 11:18 am

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

the point is not the age of the player in high school.

the unique circumstances here are that Wall is a) 19 and b)took five years to graduate high school, due to his "repeating" sophomore year. because of this, and the ambiguity of how the NBA rule is written, the argument is that Wall "should" have graduated with the high school class of 2008, and thus for NBA purposes is one year removed from the graduation of "his" high school class, and is 19.

Mayo was 19 when he graduated high school, but he graduated in 4 years. whatever reason that caused him to be a year behind did not occur in high school but before it. this means that by the ambiguous NBA rules, "his" high school class was the class of 2007, the one he graduated with, and thus this loophole was not open to him.

Since: Mar 25, 2007
Posted on: April 16, 2009 6:23 pm

Don't eliminate the Wall-to-NBA talk just yet

If I could make 4 million dollars, I would do it in a heart beat! 

It be great if he ended up in Memphis after all as  Grizz!!!

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