Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit

Kevin Galloway and Matt Pilgrim will not return to Kentucky next season, a source close to the program confirmed for CBSSports.com on Thursday morning. Consequently, the Wildcats are now down to 12 scholarship players set to be on the team assuming all the recruits qualify, 13 scholarship players if all the recruits qualify and Jodie Meeks withdraws from the NBA Draft.

The NCAA limit is 13 scholarship players.

The following is UK's roster of scholarship players (if Meeks withdraws from the draft):

Jodie Meeks
Patrick Patterson
Perry Stevenson
Ramon Harris
Darius Miller
DeAndre Liggins
Josh Harrellson
John Wall
DeMarcus Cousins
Daniel Orton
Darnell Dodson
Jon Hood
Eric Bledsoe

On that roster is the likely No. 1 pick in the 2010 NBA Draft (Wall), two other probable lottery picks (Cousins and Patterson) and a totally separate player who is expected to be a consensus first-team All-American (Meeks). Combine that with what should arguably be the best bench in the country, and you can see why Kentucky should be the nation's preseason No. 1 team.

Fostsogg4UK Since: Apr 27, 2009	Posted on: June 11, 2009 3:09 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit yeah both commits. Dodson was actually the only one to have signed. Cousins was a verbal so I'll give you that one. Wall might have gone but oh well who knows? Who cares? They're all wearing UK blue next year!! [ Reply to Comment ]
MattLee Since: Sep 27, 2006	Posted on: June 11, 2009 3:06 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit It shouldn't bother anyone who isn't a UK fan. Kentucky always fails when their expectations were high. It's something the UK faithful wish to deny and hate to accept. Tubby proved he couldn't win with his own players (His best recruiting class that had everyone thinking Title bombed). The next guy proved he also couldn't win with Tubby's players. And now the new coach gets a shot at it. Kentucky fans love the new coach until they fail expectations then instantly want them out of town. Look how they treated their previous coaches. Kentucky will fail their expectations yet again, and they will blame the coach not the players as usual. [ Reply to Comment ]
rickfisher2 Since: Feb 17, 2009	Posted on: June 11, 2009 3:02 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit And the Wizzard of Oz lives in the Emearld City!! [ Reply to Comment ]
jayhawkgrant Since: Jan 23, 2008	Posted on: June 11, 2009 2:57 pm Parrish, come on dude. Did you forget about Kansas? Who will have 2 Pre-Season All Americans? UK has a great team but how can you say a team that didnt even make the NCAA Tourney last year will be Pre-Season #1 over a team that returns everyone and won the Big XII? Come on dude. Get a clue. [ Reply to Comment ]
HerdsDaWord Since: Nov 28, 2007	Posted on: June 11, 2009 2:52 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit I would agree with everything you said regarding the NCAA and NBA SouthKnox. Where I disagree is holding John Calipari or any other coach responisble for something that was out of their control. Maybe Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT, maybe not... either way it happened before he was ever enrolled at Memphis and the Clearinghouse cleared him to play which in itself should clear Memphis and John Calipari of any wrong doing in the situation. Will anyone ever know whether Cal had a hand in this or knew that this SAT score was fabricated? Probably not, but with more facts linking it to an inside Chicago job than linking it to Cal makes it hard to blame him. As for Reggie flying and staying with the team it should have been caught, but the facts once again tell us that he paid for numerous other trips he took with the team so this is more than likely an accounting error and a simple check to the university will clear them of any wrongdoing. Of course there is Marcus Camby, who in essence turned his back on his school when he accepted money from agents. It's not a Tim Floyd situation where Calipari paid agents to get Camby to UMASS, but simply a young man unable to resist the temptations presented to him. Holding coaches accountable is ok to a limit, but holding them responsible for every action made by every player, coach, booster, trainer, or anyone else inside or outside of the program is completely unreasonable. Are coaches supposed to tap phone lines, monitor emails, text messages, facebook/myspace, bank accounts, ect? Every kid that has ever lived has done something that their parents told them not to do, but does that make every parent a bad parent? Because when it boils down to it Rose and Camby did something they knew was wrong and they knew they would get in trouble for if they told their coach. Just to paint a picture if I happened to be in line behind Patrick Patterson today at Wendy's and bought him his lunch while the person behind me took note of this and later reported it to the NCAA, using your logic this would be John Calpari's fault. These players are still young men who are going to make mistakes and poor decisions like all of us do or did at that age. The only shame is that when they do slip up it is the school, coach, and more importantly all of their teamates who are forced to pay the consequences. [ Reply to Comment ]
SouthKnox Since: Mar 1, 2009	Posted on: June 11, 2009 2:19 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit Big Daddy Brink, You are correct in that I am very passionate about this situation and college sports in general. I am in no way affiliated with the University of Memphis. It is quite the contrary, I am a graduate of Tennessee and a donor for the last 22 years. So I never have any love for Memphis. I was involved in college athletics, but no where near the level of these folks we are discussing now. But I have two sons that have potential to be at or around this level in the near future and I get tired of seeing these coaches come and go unscathed after numerous reports of wrongdoing at their respective universities. Maybe Cal knew nothing about anything that was going on at Memphis or UMass for that matter. Hard to believe but whatever. The question would be how and why does he not know these things. Where does his responsibility lie? Where is his accountability? This guy moves on leaving a trainwreck behind and makes millions while the current Memphis players get hosed. And if they decide they want to leave, they have to sit out a year. This is such a hypocritical rule. I have always been of the impression that the players get hosed everytime. Not only does Cal re-recruit the kids that have already committed to Memphis over to KY, but several scholarship players at Kentucky get sent packing because they don't fit anymore. These institutions make millions of dollars off these kids and preach they are student athletes, but the minute a coach comes in and decides the player doesn't fit, the school pulls their scholly and they contradict everything they preach. Bruce Pearl did it here, and I wasn't pleased. Lets call the NCAA what it is, a revenue machine that severly and drastically underappreciates the product that makes them their coin. The coaches are the CEO's that are pocketing the big bonuses, and cashing in the stocks, while the workers get very little benefits and very little consideration, but without them the whole thing doesn't work. And David Stern may be the biggest bastard of them all. Players like Derrick Rose and OJ Mayo have no business even being in college, but the NBA in all its wisdom is forcing these kids who are obviously not students to go to college by any means necessary, to pursue their goals in life. Why, because of the greed and Stern trying to control long term labor costs, and so the NCAA can avoid billions in local and federal taxes. Look it up. Meanwhile the two stars of the NBA finals are Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant, who are making millions for Stern, neither went to college or had to fake a test score, because they were aloud to pursue their dream. Now we have rules that, lets face it, are for exclusively teenage basketball players, mostly black kids, from pursuing their right for work. Then we vilify them for cheating on tests, not before cashing in on them, and pretend it is a balanced system. When will we wake up? [ Reply to Comment ]
TurdFerguson Since: Mar 5, 2008	Posted on: June 11, 2009 1:51 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit That cleared everything up. [ Reply to Comment ]
mercerky5 Since: Dec 4, 2007	Posted on: June 11, 2009 1:47 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit Just want to make this clear. Stats for the 2008-2009 season: Kansas 52972772.8Kentucky 57674677.2 [ Reply to Comment ]
spbass Since: Jan 4, 2007	Posted on: June 11, 2009 1:46 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit theres only two former memphis commitments on the roster? o_O [ Reply to Comment ]
v-man89 Since: Mar 26, 2009	Posted on: June 11, 2009 1:46 pm Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit Time will show and shut you up (Sore losers) look for 3-5 championships in the next 6 -8 years.Typical delusional KY fan. If cal couldn't win it in 2008 with all five starters from an elite eight team (including a first team all american) plus Derrick Rose, he's not going to win it next year with an NIT team and John Wall. [ Reply to Comment ]

It shouldn't bother anyone who isn't a UK fan. Kentucky always fails when their expectations were high. It's something the UK faithful wish to deny and hate to accept. Tubby proved he couldn't win with his own players (His best recruiting class that had everyone thinking Title bombed). The next guy proved he also couldn't win with Tubby's players. And now the new coach gets a shot at it. Kentucky fans love the new coach until they fail expectations then instantly want them out of town. Look how they treated their previous coaches. Kentucky will fail their expectations yet again, and they will blame the coach not the players as usual.

Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit

I would agree with everything you said regarding the NCAA and NBA SouthKnox. Where I disagree is holding John Calipari or any other coach responisble for something that was out of their control. Maybe Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT, maybe not... either way it happened before he was ever enrolled at Memphis and the Clearinghouse cleared him to play which in itself should clear Memphis and John Calipari of any wrong doing in the situation. Will anyone ever know whether Cal had a hand in this or knew that this SAT score was fabricated? Probably not, but with more facts linking it to an inside Chicago job than linking it to Cal makes it hard to blame him.

As for Reggie flying and staying with the team it should have been caught, but the facts once again tell us that he paid for numerous other trips he took with the team so this is more than likely an accounting error and a simple check to the university will clear them of any wrongdoing. Of course there is Marcus Camby, who in essence turned his back on his school when he accepted money from agents. It's not a Tim Floyd situation where Calipari paid agents to get Camby to UMASS, but simply a young man unable to resist the temptations presented to him.

Holding coaches accountable is ok to a limit, but holding them responsible for every action made by every player, coach, booster, trainer, or anyone else inside or outside of the program is completely unreasonable. Are coaches supposed to tap phone lines, monitor emails, text messages, facebook/myspace, bank accounts, ect? Every kid that has ever lived has done something that their parents told them not to do, but does that make every parent a bad parent? Because when it boils down to it Rose and Camby did something they knew was wrong and they knew they would get in trouble for if they told their coach.

Just to paint a picture if I happened to be in line behind Patrick Patterson today at Wendy's and bought him his lunch while the person behind me took note of this and later reported it to the NCAA, using your logic this would be John Calpari's fault. These players are still young men who are going to make mistakes and poor decisions like all of us do or did at that age. The only shame is that when they do slip up it is the school, coach, and more importantly all of their teamates who are forced to pay the consequences.

Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit

Big Daddy Brink, You are correct in that I am very passionate about this situation and college sports in general. I am in no way affiliated with the University of Memphis. It is quite the contrary, I am a graduate of Tennessee and a donor for the last 22 years. So I never have any love for Memphis. I was involved in college athletics, but no where near the level of these folks we are discussing now. But I have two sons that have potential to be at or around this level in the near future and I get tired of seeing these coaches come and go unscathed after numerous reports of wrongdoing at their respective universities. Maybe Cal knew nothing about anything that was going on at Memphis or UMass for that matter. Hard to believe but whatever. The question would be how and why does he not know these things. Where does his responsibility lie? Where is his accountability? This guy moves on leaving a trainwreck behind and makes millions while the current Memphis players get hosed. And if they decide they want to leave, they have to sit out a year. This is such a hypocritical rule. I have always been of the impression that the players get hosed everytime. Not only does Cal re-recruit the kids that have already committed to Memphis over to KY, but several scholarship players at Kentucky get sent packing because they don't fit anymore. These institutions make millions of dollars off these kids and preach they are student athletes, but the minute a coach comes in and decides the player doesn't fit, the school pulls their scholly and they contradict everything they preach. Bruce Pearl did it here, and I wasn't pleased. Lets call the NCAA what it is, a revenue machine that severly and drastically underappreciates the product that makes them their coin. The coaches are the CEO's that are pocketing the big bonuses, and cashing in the stocks, while the workers get very little benefits and very little consideration, but without them the whole thing doesn't work. And David Stern may be the biggest bastard of them all. Players like Derrick Rose and OJ Mayo have no business even being in college, but the NBA in all its wisdom is forcing these kids who are obviously not students to go to college by any means necessary, to pursue their goals in life. Why, because of the greed and Stern trying to control long term labor costs, and so the NCAA can avoid billions in local and federal taxes. Look it up. Meanwhile the two stars of the NBA finals are Dwight Howard and Kobe Bryant, who are making millions for Stern, neither went to college or had to fake a test score, because they were aloud to pursue their dream. Now we have rules that, lets face it, are for exclusively teenage basketball players, mostly black kids, from pursuing their right for work. Then we vilify them for cheating on tests, not before cashing in on them, and pretend it is a balanced system. When will we wake up?

Kentucky now down to the scholarship limit

Time will show and shut you up (Sore losers) look for 3-5 championships in the next 6 -8 years.Typical delusional KY fan. If cal couldn't win it in 2008 with all five starters from an elite eight team (including a first team all american) plus Derrick Rose, he's not going to win it next year with an NIT team and John Wall.

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