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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: December 14, 2009 6:42 pm
Edited on: December 14, 2009 6:52 pm

Roger Clarkson is trying to be stubborn.

Fine with me.

I'll Poll Attack him again.

Let's do this!

AP poll: First, let's revisit what I wrote about Roger last week.

(And I quote ...)

"He has Pittsburgh ranked 18th even though Pitt has no relevant players from last season's team, no good wins and a 16-point loss to Texas. There is absolutely nothing -- not preseason expectations, not current body of work, not anything -- to suggest Pitt is one of the best 25 teams in America, much less No. 18. But that's where Roger has the Panthers ranked. And would you believe that's not even the dumbest thing on his ballot?"

From there, I went on to destroy Roger's ballot -- you can read last week's Poll Attacks here -- and I thought he'd take the hint, learn a lesson, and we'd all be better for it. Instead, this dude ranked Pitt again despite Pitt losing by double-digits to an Indiana team that might finish last in the Big Ten.


Is public humiliation not enough?

Is he just testing me?

And though you might think I'd hold myself to a higher standard and not pick on the same person's ballot every week, you'd be wrong to think that. I will do this every Monday until Pitt is removed from Roger's ballot. So stay tuned. And Roger's crazy if he assumed I'd be too focused on him having Pitt at No. 24 to notice that he also inexplicably has Washington at No. 16, because I noticed that, too. But I'll use the Coaches poll portion of the Poll Attacks to explain my issue with Washington.

Coaches poll:
Washington is 6-2 with both losses coming to ranked teams -- the first to No. 20 Texas Tech, the second to No. 11 Georgetown. But none of the Huskies' six wins are notable, meaning they are 6-2 with zero good wins. Meantime, Dayton is 7-2 with both losses also coming to ranked teams -- the first to No. 9 Villanova, the second to No. 22 Kansas State. But to help offset those losses, the Flyers have a win over No. 15 Georgia Tech in addition to wins over Creighton, George Mason and Old Dominion.

So to summarize, Dayton's losses are certainly no worse than Washington's, and Dayton absolutely has better wins than Washington. This cannot be debated. And yet Washington is ranked 21st with 146 points. And Dayton is ranked 41st with nine points.

Seriously, could anybody reasonably suggest Washington's body of work is better than Dayton's body of work?

If so, I can't see how.

(Worth noting: Roger has Washington at No. 16 and Dayton unranked. Also worth noting: Roger has Georgia Tech at No. 19. You know, the same Georgia Tech that Dayton beat on a neutral court.)

The dumb coaches (and Roger) also have Washington (6-2 record with no good wins) ahead of Kansas State (9-1 record, only loss to No. 25 Ole Miss with wins over Dayton, Washington State, Xavier and No. 23 UNLV), and that's twice as dumb as having Washington over Dayton. So I don't know why I even worry with this stuff, except for that it gives me something to do on Monday afternoons.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 8:38 pm

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There should be no pre-season polls...It just makes for bs early in the season...Such as Michigan State ahead of Florida???? How is that possible..MSU lost to the Gators on a neutral court...And Syracuse is what number 5 with 3 big wins...Kansas number 1, I can see that being talented in all...But if there was no preaseason poll Syracuse would be number 1 and Kentucky would be number 2 based on their wins...

Then you have the vastly over-rated teams like Michigan State start at number 3 win a few easy games, lose to teams they are suppose to beat and just barely slide down the polls...It will take Michigan State a month to fall out of the poll..

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: December 14, 2009 8:36 pm

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Parrish; who is a worse voter, Clarkson or Elton Alexander? It's truly a battle of the dumb dumb's!

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: December 14, 2009 8:32 pm

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I dont see a problem with Pitt being ranked....haha just kidding. How do we even get votes after losing to Indiana? Dayton behind Washington may make a little more sense I guess, perhaps he just has a feeling that Pondexter and the Huskies will be there come March or idk, what i don't get is how he gives Dayton so little votes so that he has them ranked 41st in his poll which is extremely low for the type of record they have. I mean Dayton, Washington, and Kansas State there can be arguments made for them I suppose, but Pitt ranked is completely unreasonable, but at least I know  Pitt will always get votes from this guy haha.

Since: Jan 26, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 8:25 pm

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You could use the same argument in your poll in which you have Connecticut ranked ahead of Dayton. Connecticut has lost to both ranked teams they have played with arguably no good wins unless you want to count LSU( I wouldn't). It's funny how you like to spin things regarding some teams but don't apply the same logic to all teams. Obviously Connecticut is better than Dayton but so is Washington, whether either team has shown thus far is debatable. I see no problem with Washington being ranked ahead of Dayton.  

Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: December 14, 2009 7:59 pm

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When are the pollsters going to realize that you do not have to have at least on team from each of the Power 6 Leagues ranked?  That is clearly the only reason Washington is ranked; out of pity for the horrid Pac 10.  I do not even have enough time in the day to list all the teams that deserve to be ranked more than they do.

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