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This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Posted on: December 18, 2009 6:22 am
Edited on: December 18, 2009 10:19 am
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Bob Knight spoke at a fundraiser Thursday night.

Predictably, he managed to make national headlines.

"We've gotten into this situation where integrity is really lacking and that's why I'm glad I'm not coaching," Knight said. "You see we've got a coach at Kentucky who put two schools on probation and he's still coaching. I really don't understand that."

This is the place where Kentucky fans would like me to tell you that John Calipari has never been directly implicated in anything, and the place where fans of every other school, particularly Memphis fans, would like me to tell you that Knight speaks the truth, and God bless him. But I'm not interested in sparking that debate because the Calipari debate has been going on for months, if not years, and it never reaches a conclusion.

If he coaches your school, you love him.

If not, you think he's a lying cheater.

There's almost no in-between.

And this is how it's going to be forever, UK fans, and why it was clear -- even before Knight said what he said -- that any success Calipari has going forward will be tainted regardless of whether it's really tainted. Until the day he retires, the majority of observers will believe, fair or not, that every recruit Calipari gets is a product of his relationship with William Wesley even if Worldwide Wes has never met the recruit. All SATs will be assumed fake even if they're legit, all future pros will supposedly have agents even if they do not.

There's no sense in fighting that perception.

There's certainly no way of changing that perception.

On Thursday night, it was Bob Knight taking a shot at Calipari.

In March during the NCAA tournament, it'll be every columnist in America.

That's what the $30 million Kentucky spent on Calipari has brought the school -- a coach who will lure lots of great recruits, win countless big games, and hang banners while people ask whether Kentucky really expects those banners to remain after an inevitable NCAA investigation. Then Kentucky fans will yell about how Calipari wasn't tied to anything. Then everybody will roll their eyes and laugh. And around and around we go.
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Bobwade
Since: Jan 28, 2009
Posted on: December 18, 2009 10:48 pm
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Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2009 10:20 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

so this is how it's going to be?  10-0 and 3rd in the country?  And all I have to do is put up with haters who are just p*ssed that their team isn't as good? Uh - sign me up.  Line to kiss my big blue rear starts to the left.
And I just have to say how amusing I find Bob Knight's moral compass - hitting players, berating fans and officials is OK.  Being a bully to little press runners at the NCAA is OK.  Shouting down anyone with the audacity to disagree with him - OK.  Forgive me if I take his pontification with a grain of salt.



Since: Jul 25, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2009 10:10 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Because you say so???



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2009 10:07 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Amen ZeekZeek

That nail dissapeared when you hit it..........



Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2009 9:57 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Like Dean Smith having two freshmen's grades in Mathematics changed so they could remain eligible?



Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2009 9:55 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Well ........lets see, so according to you, UK Basketball fans will get (and I quote your words)- "a coach who will lure lots of great recruits, win countless big games, and hang banners"  Sooooo...........whats the problem?

I don't know about you Mr. Perfect, but I am a college basketball fan. Yep, that is what I do, I watch basket ball games and further more...I enjoy them! I watch the players play, I watch the coaches coach. I also admit openly, I like to see the team I root for WIN. I confess, I am guilty of these things.

I am not guilty however, of wondering about whether a UK recruit accepted a tissue to wipe his nose without reporting it. (Yes, the NCAA strict B.S. has become that silly and the organization is clearly drunk with power )

I am also not guilty of caring what other people think of the team I cheer to victory. I really do not care if people say UK only wins because of what the coach does. To this I say, don't most teams win by the actions of their coach? One thing I know for sure, when someone cheers for a winning team, others who do not share your opinion will find fault with that team and complain. Doesn't matter why, they will complain about something............ evereytime.  Always happens.

Nope, that don't bother me either. If UK was found guilty of some NCAA high crimes? Don't care, so what, big deal.


Why you may ask? Because......... I am a college basketball fan. Yep, that is what I do, I watch basket ball games and further more...I enjoy them! I watch the players play, I watch the coaches coach. I also admit openly, I like to see the team I root for WIN. I confess, I am guilty of these things.
Oh yea, I almost forgot. Bob Knight, now there is a "stellar" upstanding caoch and human being. He is certainly the only person who has the right to talk crap about Calapari. Yea, Bob "The student player abuser"  Knight. What a guy.........one hell of a face slapper and physical abuser.

JB



Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2009 9:21 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Best blog post you've written in a while Gary.



Since: Apr 9, 2008
Posted on: December 18, 2009 8:55 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

ncheels4ever: We also have to remember that these coaches are from two completely different eras in basketball.  When Knight was in his prime not a lot of players were leaving early.  He was great because he could coach kids for 4 years and make them great players.  Today the game is different, players leave early all the time (I bet most years an all freshman team could beat an all senior team) Calipari is great because he can maximize a player for one for two years. In the end it's really not practical to compare the two. 



Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: December 18, 2009 8:38 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

Hey bud you forgot to put loserville on that too!



Since: Mar 23, 2007
Posted on: December 18, 2009 8:26 pm
 

This is how it's forever going to be, UK fans

You're exactly right Numbr1. UK basketball is about so much more than the game. It's deeply personal.

I've been kind of surprised by all of this negative attention from opposing fans and some columnists, and I think another reason for it is that it all happened so fast. It was faster than most of us expected. When you go from the NIT to a top 5 ranking it's kind of unreal. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad we're winning. Usually it's more gradual though. This was like a bucket of ice water dumped over your head..especially if you're a rival fan. People need time to warm up to the idea. And when you're decent but not great, people don't pay as much attention to minute details. When UK began to emerge as very, very good, the lens of public attention turned on us and narrowed, becoming more of a microscope. Maybe the fact that these weren't originally UK players has something to do with it too. Maybe when Calipari puts in the time recruiting players to UK start to finish and builds a few teams consisting of his own players, any success we have will seem more natural to the outside observer. Let's hope. We can't go on having to up with all of this crap.


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