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Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

Posted on: January 20, 2010 3:08 pm
 

Michael Rothstein of AnnArbor.com polled 45 college basketball writers to get a glimpse of how the Player of the Year race is unfolding. It's no surprise that John Wall got 32 of the 45 first-place votes, just a surprise that three voters didn't list Wall among their top three.

I like to call those people stupid.

Seriously, how could Wall not be in somebody's top three?

Anyway, click this link to check the results.

My ballot (as of this minute) is ...

1. John Wall (Kentucky)
2. Evan Turner (Ohio State)
3. Damion James (Texas)
Comments

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: January 21, 2010 1:20 pm
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

How can you realistically not have Wes Johnson in your poll?  He is a freak and has had the greatest influence on the Cuse being dominant at both ends of the floor this year.  He is a stat machine. 



Since: Jan 2, 2007
Posted on: January 21, 2010 9:45 am
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

It's not surprising at all to see Wall have a large lead in this vote.  Evan Turner should receive the award though, despite missing a few weeks with that back injury.  Wall has at least two future NBA guys around him, while Turner has single handedly taken Ohio State from a bubble team to a 4 or 5 seed in the NCAA Tourney.  And this is coming from a huge Badgers fan so I would like to see Turner stink up the joint.  He is the BEST player in college basketball in my opinion.



Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2010 2:09 am
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

So you're basically just using KenPom for your entire argument.  I guess you think the BCS is a great system as well. No, I'm using KenPom as an example of a reason a media analyst might have of excluding John Wall from a top three list of players of the year. I would have a list similar to Gary's at this point in time.




Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2010 1:53 am
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

So you're basically just using KenPom for your entire argument.  I guess you think the BCS is a great system as well.



Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2010 1:36 am
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

Your logic is so flawed and your misuse of statistics is embarrassing. Please get your facts straight before posting again. Same to you, buddy, since it's obvious you haven't checked either poll in a while. North Carolina's gone from both top 15's to a 24/23 split and Connecticut's hanging around only in the coaches poll. I was using KenPom's rankings when I stated Louisville is the toughest competition they've played so far, and I was using the offensive rating of the players, not the possesion percentage. Try again.



Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: January 21, 2010 1:25 am
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

What little I have seen him, Wall has been very good. He has taken over Kentucky's close games down the stretch that I have seen. I think this is a down year for Player of the Year. Wall has been good, but would not be the front runner most years. The other guy I think should be at least mentioned is Wesley Johnson. I'm not saying he should be the front-runner, but he is another do-everything type similar to Evan Turner. Also, Jimmer Fredette is one of the  best scoring 2 guards in the country. I think you should at least mention him.



Since: Sep 26, 2009
Posted on: January 20, 2010 11:28 pm
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

1) Excuse me? Louisville was the stiffest competition? Have you forgotten about a #10 (AP) / #11 (Coaches) UNC team or a #14 (AP) / #12 (Coaches) UConn team? Despite how they have been looking recently (UNC is still ranked in both, UConn is ranked in one), they were both clearly top 15 teams at the time that UK played them. Louisville wasn't even ranked when UK beat them.

2) KenPom is NOT, let me repeat, NOT using those statistics to determine who the BEST player on the team is. The statistics are used to determine how often the player is used on possessions. Considering that Boogie (DeMarcus Cousins) likes to take a shot nearly every time he touches the ball, I'm not surprised he is used on the most possessions. Wall is also a point guard. Point guards set up plays and pass a lot.

Your logic is so flawed and your misuse of statistics is embarrassing. Please get your facts straight before posting again.



Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: January 20, 2010 9:21 pm
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

Evan Turner is the POY, Wall is the MVP. Two different things. You can look at how Turner has performed this season (especially as of late) and he can score, rebound, and make plays for others. wall can do that too, but Turner can do it just as good, if not better



Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: January 20, 2010 8:17 pm
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

Seriously, how could Wall not be in somebody's top three? Several reasons.
  1. The stiffest competition Kentucky has played all year is Louisville.
  2. (At least, not according to KenPom)
  3. He's a freshman; some might be inclined to only give him the FOY award only.
I'm not saying I wouldn't put him in my Top 3 if I was in the media, since I would. However, there's some reason.



Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: January 20, 2010 5:31 pm
 

Media panel has Wall way ahead in POY race

They could have done this poll in November and gotten the same results.  BFD.


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