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Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Posted on: March 12, 2010 3:53 pm
Edited on: March 12, 2010 3:59 pm

Michigan had five players on the court.

One. Two. Three. Four. Five.

And yet John Beilein didn't use any of them to A) guard the inbound guy, or B) deny Evan Turner the ball. So guess what happened? In a span of 2.2 seconds, Turner -- otherwise known as the National Player of the Year -- looped around without interruption, caught a clean pass, took two dribbles and launched a 37-footer that swished and gave Ohio State a 69-68 win in Friday's Big Ten quarterfinals.

My God.

If I live to be 99 -- and I hope I do -- I'll never understand why coaches don't put somebody on the inbound guy. Cincinnati didn't do it Thursday night, which allowed Da'Sean Butler to catch a clean pass and hit a game-winner. I watched that, went to bed, woke up, turned the TV back on, and watched Michigan use and fail with the same strategy

Absolutely insane.

And how do you even let Turner touch the ball?

He's the one person on the court you absolutely don't watch touching it if you're Michigan. But the Wolverines let him catch the ball and fly up the court with no resistance, and they paid the price they deserved to pay for not learning from Rick Pitino's greatest coaching mishap.

Remember the Christian Laettner shot in the 1992 East Regional?

It happened, at least in part, because Pitino put nobody on the inbound guy.

This was similar in that it made no sense.

And now Michigan is responsible for enhancing the legend of an Ohio State star.

Just perfect.

Unless you're Michigan.

Since: Jan 18, 2010
Posted on: March 13, 2010 12:44 pm

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

I agree that they should have done a better job both in harrassing the inbounder, and also in trying to slow down the ball handler moving up the court.  They certainly should not have been able to get off such an open look so quickly.

But denying Turner the ball would seem like a mistake to me.  He only made 10 3pters all year, and shot them at a 28% rate, so he doesn't seem like a real threat to make that shot.  I'd have to go back and look at the replay, but by far the best long range shooter for the Buckeye's is Diebler, who made 90+ 3s this year and shot them at a 42% rate!   Even Buford and Lighty seem like they are better from distance then Turner, which might explain why they let him have the ball.

But hey, well, he made it.  Go fig.

Since: Mar 12, 2010
Posted on: March 13, 2010 11:50 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Or they could go with scenario 4, which is exactly what Tom Izzo did at the end of regulation last night.  He put nobody on the inbounder, two players in the backcourt at about the three point line and the other three guys back.  The two in the backcourt pressured the guy receiving the inbounds pass, but not too closely, so as to avoid fouling.  That scheme prevented the long pass because of the three guys back, but it also didn't give a free run to the guy getting the ball.  Minnesota had 3.9 seconds to get off a shot (not 2.2), but because of the pressure the best they could do was an off balance heave that barely hit the backboard.  They didn't get an in-rhythm jumper (albeit from 37 feet) like Turner got, which has a much higher chance of going in.

Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: March 13, 2010 11:46 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

My assumption is that Beilein did not expect Turner to advance 15 feet after catching the ball before the clock started. We all know officials can check the monitor to see if a shot was released in time, but what can be done if the clock was not STARTED on time? The late start of the clock turned a 50 foot shot into a 37 foot shot.

Since: Mar 13, 2010
Posted on: March 13, 2010 11:16 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Maybe you should get YOUR facts straight before you start calling people out! Manny was recruited by Tommy A.! I am a Michigan fan and I didn't see ANY great moments this year. The only game they played with passion, effort and desire was at home against Minnesota. You named 4 guys with talent that Beilein recruited in all his years at WV! That's not a good recruiter! Beilein has a poor offense (you can't let guys fire away from deep when they can't shoot, worst 3pt percentage in the Big Ten), poor defense, doesn't motivate his team and is a poor recruiter. He hasn't brought in 1 good player since he's been here! NOT ONE!! The only good players on the team are Harris and Sims - BOTH T.A.'s recruits! So get your facts straight you moron!

Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: March 13, 2010 11:10 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

I don't have a problem with how the game ended. The WORST thing Michigan could have done was to foul - and that's what Michigan was striving to avoid. The only way the Buckeyes could win the game was a foul or a prayer. Against all odds the prayer was answered. Game over.

The biggest thing I get from this article is Gary's disdain for OSU and Evan Turner. "Why would you let Turner catch the ball" sounds like a comment from the next table in a sports bar, not a column headline from a supposed credible sports writer. Mr Parish was the last person on the planet to concede that Evan Turner was more deserving of POY that John Wall. His article reverberates with gall at Evan Turner being thrust into the spotlight on the eve of POY being awarded. Sorry Gary but it's Evan's time - and unlike you he is humble and deserving.

Since: Apr 3, 2007
Posted on: March 13, 2010 9:59 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Most of the comments, including this article are ridiculous.  They made a conscious decision to play the odds and Turner completely busted the odds.  There are several ways to play that scenario, all of which result in a low probabilty of the other team scoring.  Michigan chose one of those VALID methods and they just happened to lose.

1) They could full court press and hope to force OSU to inbounds at full court and take a 90 footer.  However, that opens you up for the long pass and an easy basket since your deep guy is 1 on 1.

2)  They could have done what they did, and put all their defenders deep to keep the long pass from allowing an easy two and forcing the opposing team to make an unbelievable shot.

3) they could have put 1 guy on the ball and everyone else deep to try to obscure the passer's view.  However this is also not without its issues.  Since the inbound passer can run the baseline, you are almost wasting a deep defender and putting the offense in a 4 on 4 deep so basically a 50/50 shot they will be able to inbound the ball from long range and be able to get a decent look in 2.2 seconds.  That really is a long time, so if you let the team catch the inbounds inside their end of the court, 2.2 is plenty of time to get to the basket.

So when you look at all 3 scenarios, while none of them give a good probability the other team will score, options 1 and 2 offer a better chance to score than option 2.  Michigan played the odds and just happened to lose.  But that doesn't mean they did anything wrong.  In fact, if you idiots understood basketball and the probabilities and the options available, you would see that in fact, michigan made the choice with the least likelihood of OSU making a basket.

Since: Nov 6, 2009
Posted on: March 13, 2010 8:56 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

We are on the same page ajb, bc I was thinking the same exact thing watching the end of regulation last night.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: March 13, 2010 8:37 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Cudo's to UM to even be in the game. OSU got nervous & tight & UM was tough, hard to say that but accurate. At the end, too bad they didn't put more pressure on Turner. Why is he allowed that much space. After all that effort, I feel Beilein let his players and his university down with that defensive call or lack thereof. Turner can get the ball, but you should guard him for pete's sake.

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: March 13, 2010 8:34 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

HE HIT A 37 FOOT SHOT!!!!!!!!!! Hey folks, that is a 1 in fifty shot for a guy on the run to stop and launch. There is no way to coach against scenerios like that. Would you also crucify a coach if the shot was from 90 feet away. The Michigan coach had his team in a position to win that game and a piece of bad luck derailed that. So instead of listening to some ignorant sports writer, think for yourself. Ohio State didn't survive on a layup, a silly foul, or a 15 ft. jumper. Ohio State is still alive because of pure dumb luck. 

Since: Mar 13, 2010
Posted on: March 13, 2010 7:20 am

Why would you let Evan Turner catch the ball?

Thank you John Beilein for another example of how not to coach.  Nice to celebrate early isn't it. 

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