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Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

Posted on: March 31, 2010 7:40 pm
Edited on: March 31, 2010 9:53 pm

Kentucky freshman Daniel Orton -- a reserve who averaged just 3.4 points and 3.3 rebounds a game this season -- is making himself available for the NBA Draft, the Louisville Courier-Journal reported Wednesday night.

"We had some teams say there was interest,” Orton's father, Larry Orton, told the Courier-Journal's Brett Dawson.

Orton could be the first of five underclassmen to leave Kentucky early. John Wall, DeMarcus Cousins and Patrick Patterson are essentially locks to the declare for the draft considering all three are projected lottery picks, and sources have told that Eric Bledsoe is also leaning toward entering.

Larry Orton said his son will not immediately hire an agent.

The deadline for amateurs to withdraw from the draft is May 8.


Since: Mar 31, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 9:15 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

You obviously haven't done your research.  He'll most likely be a top 20 pick.  Uk is going to have 5 guys picked in the top 20, 4 of which will be lottery picks.  Check the following projections:





Of those three the worst has him at 25.  Some scouts even like him more than Cole Aldrich.  Might as well make the money while he can.

Since: Apr 1, 2010
Posted on: April 1, 2010 3:01 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

Duke players don't leave early?
Elton Brand
Corey Maggette
William Avery-the player Coach K got mad about leaving early (he wasnt ready)
Jason Williams
Mike Dunleavy
Carlos Boozer
Loul Deng
Shavlik Randolph - yes he did
Josh McRoberts
Gerald Henderson
I'm sure I have forgotten some. And don't forget about transfers. California, Villanova, and Memphis all had Duke players starting for them this year.

Since: Apr 22, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 2:16 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

you said coach K doesn't get many 3 and 4 yr players? where have you been. Elton Brand was the first Duke Player to EVER leave early for the Pro's, there may have been a few since but coach K always graduates his players. I hate Duke and I know this

Since: Jan 15, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 1:53 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

Excellent point.  He's doing the smart thing by evaulating his stock in the draft.  He can always withdraw and come back, likely for two years with the lockout.  If all 5 of them leave, it doesn't look good for Kentucky next year.  I don't see a lot of recruits coming in right now, but that's not to say Cal won't pull out some magic and sign a couple of guys late or steal a guy or two.

Since: Apr 29, 2007
Posted on: April 1, 2010 1:29 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

Finsfan, if Tubby coached the team it would be considered a losing season. If Tubby was still the coach we would've had an 11 seed and have been knocked out in the first round. Don't get me wrong, Tubby is a great guy, but his entire tenure was a downward slope that resulted in his final years of getting 8 seeds and 12 or 13 losses. That's just not gonna cut it at Kentucky, and that's why he left. And no, if he had been 35-3 in the Elite Eight this year I don't think people would be screaming for his head (maybe a few people but certainly not the majority). Only once had he ever had as many as 35 wins (his first season) and he NEVER had as few as 3 losses. He was also never able to recruit this kind of talent on a year-to-year basis.

Are you really telling me that with the talent Calipari had this year that this year could be considered anything less than disappointing? Sure it was disappointing. Any time you make it that far and lose it's disappointing. And of course it hurts more because of how much potential there was this year. But why is everyone singling out Calipari? What about Kansas? Kansas was, after all, THE favorite to win it all this year since day one, and they DID have a ton of experience to go along with a ton of talent. And what happened? They didn't even make it to the Sweet Sixteen. THAT is disappointing. You could say the same thing with Syracuse. What annoys me is how everyone is constantly calling out Calipari for not having enough experience on his teams, yet the teams that DID have talent along with elite experience get a free pass. Double standard maybe? Bottom line: the 3 best teams got knocked out before the Final Four this year, and for some reason Calipari is the one getting the most heat, even though it was his first season and he still made it farther than the other 2 best teams. Does anyone really not see the irony here?

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: April 1, 2010 12:46 pm

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

Orton is doing the smartest thing he could possibly do; he's testing the waters, and if he doesn't like what he sees, he'll come back. Very, very intelligent and prudent decision that he cannot and should not be faulted for whatsoever. He also has incredible shot blocking skills that weren't mentioned in the article; I truly think he could succeed in the NBA. He's a big, strong, athletic kid with good defensive instincts. If he goes, he probably won't succeed for a little while; needs more polish. But if he stays, UK gets back a potential All-SEC player (personally I think he's got loads of potential).

Who cares whether Orton was recruited by Cal or by Gillispie? The overall message and points are the same and they're true. Calipari recruits mercenaries, and it's going to catch up with him eventually. Oh wait, it did THIS year, when his "can't miss" team got physically dominated by a better West Virginia team.

Calipari gets outcoached in every big stage he's found on. 1996 Final Four (although UMASS simply wasn't as good as UK), the NBA was an embarassment, he allowed his team to blow a nearly insurmountable lead in 2008 (and yes, lack of success at the free throw line can be directly attributed to the head coach), and then was vastly outcoached by Hugs in the Elite Eight. If I were a UK fan that game and his body language and demeanour would've made me nervous. He made ZERO in-game adjustments, didn't use his TO's effectively as momentum changers, and simply got his coaching hat handed to him every step of the way.

Great recruiter, great surface coach, but when talent isn't enough and it comes down to X's and O's in a big game, give me almost ANY other NCAA coach than Cal. Because at the very least I know they'll make more free throws than a Calipari coached team who almost eschews fundamentals due to their immense talent.

And to all Kentucky fans suddenly pleased with the season's results after practically being suicidal after the loss: come on now. You aren't fooling anyone. You sold your souls for a NC, and now that you've disappointed, it's "well he went 35-3 and got us to the Elite 8"


Thank you to the ex-UK fan who made the point that he didn't want to be associated with this fanbase any longer. Spoiled and harsh under Tubby, yes, but downright arrogant and insufferable when Cal and the mercenaries came to town. I can't count how many people anointed them NC before a ball was tipped. Now those same fans are saying they're pleased with the results of this season.


Since: Feb 28, 2008
Posted on: April 1, 2010 11:53 am

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

"I have not declared for the NBA Draft," Orton told via text message Wednesday night. "I'm currently weighing my options and will make a decision prior to the deadline."
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Since: Feb 17, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 10:59 am

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

I love everyone saying he's done bad because of freshmen this you not realize that since Cal was a new coach with a BRAND NEW coaching style it was like he was coaching ALL freshmen. Even the soph. jun. sen. (patterson, liggins, miller, etc.) had to learn a totally new, much, much different system than they'd ever played before. And I love everyone saying they wouldn't want Cal as a coach and wouldn't want a bunch of one and dones because it's ruining college bball...then stop watching because this is the new game and have you not realized that since the one and dones college basketball has been watched ALOT more. It's better for college bball because it allows the best talent in the world to play for one of our universities for at least a year. And to all those saying there should be a 3 year rule, do you not understand what the outcome would be...all of our top high school athletes would just go to Europe and play, because the NBA is NEVER going to make kids wait until they are 20 to enter the draft...they want the best talent as soon as a guy before me said it's just business. Oh and about the experience...well that sure worked out well for Kansas or Nova this year didn't it??? Not ragging on Kansas/Nova just saying, all that experience didn't help them get past the 2nd round...

Since: Dec 23, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 10:47 am

Report: UK's Orton entering NBA Draft

35 and 3 is the reason. 

Since: Dec 17, 2009
Posted on: April 1, 2010 9:25 am

NBA Lockout Looming??

I think a lot of people are forgetting about the possibility of a NBA lockout in 2011, which I have to believe plays a roll in all of these kids' decisions!  If they are told they're going to be a first round pick this year, why come back to school and pass up a guaranteed contract with there being a possibility of not being able to enter the draft next year?  Whether a guy is ready or not doens't really have anything to do with their's strictly a business decision and if everyone could step back and not be a fan for a second, you'd probably understand.  All of these highly recruited kids have goals to play in the NBA as soon as possible and as much as they may want to win a championship while they're in school, it's not always smart for them to come back, even if they're not ready to play in the NBA yet.  Could Orton come back next year and get better and play himself into the lottery next year...sure.  But, he could also come back next year and get hurt or face a lockout after next season and have to wait until the dust settles before he can turn pro.  If it turns out he's a guaranteed first round pick this year, I think it would be a bad business decision for him to come back to school...even if he's not ready for the NBA yet.  I think Cal would probably tell him the same thing...

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