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Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

Posted on: June 3, 2010 3:51 pm

The Pac-10 is prepared to offer six Big 12 schools -- Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado -- invitations to join its league, Chip Brown of reported Thursday afternoon. is a site devoted to covering Texas athletics.

According to the report, the Pac-10 would place the six Big 12 schools in a division with Arizona and Arizona State, leaving UCLA, Southern California, Stanford, California, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State to form the other division. The report states that the Pac-10 -- possibly under a new name -- would then create its own television network that could lead to annual payouts of around $20 million to each of the 16 members.

What's unclear is whether the Big 12 schools would accept a presumed offer.
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Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 9:41 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

If Texas wants to go to the Pac 10 Stanford would get kicked out to make room for Texas. Fact. Fiction. Stanford already singlehandedly blocked Texas from the Pac-10 in 1993. If Stanford doesn't want Texas in the Pac-10, Texas won't be in the Pac-10.

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:56 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

I am sure there are some teams that worry about how this will affect recruiting. This merger gives Texas and Oklahoma access to Southern California athletes, and USC and UCLA maybe greater access to Texas athletes. It might not be too easy to keep home-bred talent at home. I mean if I go to Texas and I am from SoCal, I get to play against SoCal/UCLA/Stanford/Cal sooner or later, and vice versa for Texas athletes. Those who want to stay in-state will do so. Those that want to go to a foreign country (facetious) will have all the more reason to do so. Maybe for a few players there will be academic reasons as well as football reasons to choose some schools. 

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:54 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

 The SEC should react right away...

 Invite Texas, TexasTech, Texas AM, both OU and OK State + Florida State. Then...make sure Vanderbilt and South Carolina leave....

 Texas AM
 Texas Tech
 Oklahoma State
 Ole Miss
 Mississippi State

 Florida State

 Make it..
 7 division games
 3 Opposite division game
 2 non conference game of choice

 Does it sounds makeable ? Or am I way off ?

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:45 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

I would think the scheduling would involve mostly playing the teams in your division, which for the teams added be no different than current opponents except for Arizona teams. And Arizona teams do not have to go to daylight savings time. They can basically stay on standard time which for games thru October mean they are the same as Mountain time which is only one time zone difference. Travelling west you gain an hour anyway. It is only a problem when travelling east, so the rub might be how well Arizona teams like it. They usually play all there games at night in Arizona, at least until November. I think the travel thing is just a canard to be used by anyone not wanting this merger to happen. I still think this proposal makes so much sense that it is frightening.

Since: Feb 11, 2009
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:41 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

Honestly it is going to be hard to see a situation where Oklahoma is allowed to move without the Cowboys. The Pac 10 move makes the most sense for Texas. Texas wanted to keep both the Aggies and Sooners as conference rivals but also get rid of some of the dead weight (Iowa State, KSU, Baylor).

Oklahoma is not going to be in a position to weigh Pac 10 and SEC offers. Once the chairs start moving the Sooners have to dance with the first partner or risk crossing their fingers hoping the other take them and OSU. The risk of failure is to great to sit back and think the Sooners are in the driver seat in deciding their future. It does not take much imagination to imagine the Sooners in Nebraska's situation where if the Cornhuskers do not get into the Big Ten they are going to be to forced into survival mode as the Big 12 breaks up.

Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:40 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

This really does make sense.  The only part that doesn't make sense is that if Stanford had issues w/ academic levels of potential members--- OSU and OK are really going to have issues.
Perhaps that is why there is a proposed "dumb division" (w the exception of Tx/Tx and Smart Division (Stanford /Cal/UCLA/Wash).
Seriously though--this seems like a great concept. (and that comes from from a B10 fan who would love Tx/Tx AM. )  If they get it done--- Congratulations to the Pac 10!

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:27 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

Very nice post raiderred.

Since: Dec 29, 2006
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:21 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

Are these ratings all undergraduate or do they include graduate schools? If they do not include graduate schools, I am curious as to what those ratings would be. I wouldn't say a university doesn't care about its undergraduate ratings, but I really think it is most concerned with its graduate school ratings. Also, I am sure there is a big difference between Stanford/Northwestern than Washington/Penn St.
But how big is the difference between #71 and #100, #102 etc?

Since: Nov 9, 2008
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:17 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

In regard to the Pac 10 inviting 6 of the Big 12 schools in an effort to form a Super Conference of some sort: Jesus, Mary and Joseph... if any of you take time to go thru and actually read all of the posts on this subject... you can't help but come away feeling this conference would be comprised of clearly the most arrogant group opf fans and people in the entire country... on both sides! 

Can't wait to see the next few days and weeks unfold on this subject.

Since: Dec 4, 2008
Posted on: June 3, 2010 8:00 pm

Report: Pac-10 targeting six Big 12 schools

Great news!

To me this merger is more of a natural fit.   Some say Texas to the BIG 10.  Not a good move in my opinion.  Big 10 isn't a southwestern culture and the fit isn't there. 

Some are saying OU, OSU, UT and A&M to the SEC.  Only one of these schools that fit the SEC type image is A&M.  Though A&M has a high academic rating, athletics at all cost is accepted there.  SEC has much less standards for their athletes do as the BIG 10, PAC 10 and BIG 12 do.  

The Pac 10 and the Texas, Oklahoma and Colorado schools have less cultural differences.  Colorado and Texas being the least different culturally from the PAC 10 schools.  But all share the Southwest West Culture.  

In the BIG 12 you get the northern schools say they are just to southern and the south schools saying, they are just to midwest.    

The chatter here in the BIG 12 south is they want to make the BIG 12 work but the northern schools are so miffed at UT and how they dominate the way things are run.  Sorry bout that.  They bitched and moaned back when the BIG 12 formed about us Texas' schools joining, but what they don't realize is that they had to have our TV markets to survive or they would have been the next SWC (Southwest Conference).  SWC died for many reasons but one main was that the league couldn't get a TV deal because of all the private schools in the conference and their stadiums were empty every saturday.  What TV network wants to broadcast that.  Only one that was viable at that time was Baylor.  TCU was nothing what they are now.  

If it wasn't for the Texas TV markets, the BIG 8 would have been cherry picked 14 years ago. 

Anyway, Texas Tech is just a few years away from Tier one status and recognition.  Have a beautiful medical school and a top rated Law school.   So Tech not fitting in the PAC 10 academically is silly and typical blah blah blah. 

It will be nice to rejoin old Border Conference rivals Arizona and Arizona State.  Wouldn't mind seeing this merger proceed now than later. 

I just LOVE this idea as a fan and someone who cares greatly about Texas Tech! 

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