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Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

Posted on: June 17, 2010 12:11 am
Edited on: June 17, 2010 12:14 am
 

Days college athletics has been held hostage (since Big Ten announced expansion exploration on Dec. 15): 183

Had a good Wednesday:
Utah received a formal invitation from the Pac-10, then scheduled a press conference for Thursday afternoon, at which point administrators will announce that the invitation has been accepted. In other words, the Utes are heading to a BCS league. That means they'll likely never again have to worry about going undefeated and being left out of the national title game.

Had a bad Wednesday:
The Mountain West learned that it's losing its premier football program, and even the addition of Boise State won't offset Utah's departure. It's a shame for MWC commissioner Craig Thompson. He's done a good job developing a good league, but it's almost like he's the Royals and Larry Scott is the Yankees considering Thompson oversaw Utah's rise, then lost the Utes to an entity that could guarantee more money.

Quote of the day: "This recognition can only be a matter of pride for the people of Utah," Utah president Bernie Machen, now the president at Florida, told the Salt Lake Tribune.

Link of the day: Click this link to read the Salt Lake Tribune's coverage of Utah's invitation from the Pac-10. 

On tap: There's still some speculation that the Big East could add another member or two. Memphis and UCF are the schools most commonly mentioned as possibilities. But there is no known timeframe for the Big East to act, one way or another. Or not at all.

Category: NCAAF
Comments

Since: Jun 11, 2010
Posted on: June 17, 2010 12:13 pm
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

and THIS is why I couldnt understand Boise State's move to the MWC. Yes its an upgrade from where they were - though a small one - and the competition is better but with all the expanding other conferences are doing it was only a matter of time before one of them targeted a BCS buster...though I thought it would be the Big 12 trying to keep up. Now the conference takes a step back in regards to obtaining a conf championship and a BCS bid and Boise State pretty much made a parallel move.


They move to the MWC b/c:
1.  it is a much better conference in football with a chance to get an auto bid. (even w/out utah)
2.  They get more money
3.  better sports programs all around
4. better academic institutions



Since: Jun 26, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 11:38 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

That means they'll(Utah) likely never again have to worry about going undefeated and being left out of the national title game.

You're half right---they'll never again have to worry about going undefeated.



Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2010 11:23 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

Great...had to drag the Royals into it. They should of at least had a 'good wednesday' getting the allstar game



Since: Nov 30, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 11:14 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

I hate to say it.......but you're right. Adding BSU doesn't make much sense. The only way Boise could go to the Pac-10 is if there was an outright swap with Washington State, and the clout of the University of Washington will ensure that will never happen.



Since: Jun 9, 2010
Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:43 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

Good for Utah and good for the Pac-10 ... Pac-12 ... Western Alliance ... whatever you want to call it.  Now the ... whatever conference has the same tasks ahead of it that the Big 10 (that name probably won't change) does.  What are the divisions?  Are there divisions?  What's the schedule look like?  Do we have the same divisions in football and womens tennis?  Where are we going to hold that new conference championship game?  That's probably the biggest question ... the conference championship game in football.  Only 4 schools have changed conference affiliation (so far).  We've gained two conference championship games and lost one (unless the Big 12/Longhorn Conference can lure a couple more schools in real quick).  Here's a thought, what if the Big East adds more football schools?  Where do they get them?  From Conference USA?  The MAC?  What about the SEC?  Do they want to be a 16 team league?  I don't think so, but they will respond if another conference threatens their position as king of the hill.  If we still have 6 BCS (I still hate the BCS, but that's another story) conferences with 12 to 16 teams each that will certainly water down Division I (and I will continue to call it Division I) football.  Think about an expanded Big 12 for example.  Who to take?  Arkansas?  TCU?  Houston, Rice, SMU, UTEP?  Can you imagine Texas playing Baylor, Houston, Rice, SMU, UTEP, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Texas A & M, and Kansas State in conference?  I don't want to.  Yes, maybe the Big 12 adds a couple of schools to get the conference championship game at JerryWorld going again.  But I don't want to see 6 BCS conferences that all have 16 teams.  Heck, I'm not even sure that all 6 could have 12 quality teams.  But, good for Utah.  They can legitimately compete for a national championship.  They just have to go through Oregon and USC.



Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:40 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

...and THIS is why I couldnt understand Boise State's move to the MWC. Yes its an upgrade from where they were - though a small one - and the competition is better but with all the expanding other conferences are doing it was only a matter of time before one of them targeted a BCS buster...though I thought it would be the Big 12 trying to keep up. Now the conference takes a step back in regards to obtaining a conf championship and a BCS bid and Boise State pretty much made a parallel move.




Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:32 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

ESPN's Rumor Mill is saying that Memphis and UCF may be offered by the Big East as early as next week. 
I'd like to see the Big East add Army and Navy as football only schools as they already have a scheduling agreement in place with them, why not make it official and get a Championship game out of the deal. 



Since: Jul 5, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:08 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

Expansion is not about putting the best teams together; it's about bringing more revenue to the conference, either through academic avenues or television revenues.  Pac-10 would have no interest in Boise State.  They don't fit with the Pac-10 academically.  They don't (outside of football) fit with the Pac-10 athletically.  From a television revenue/market standpoint they don't bring anything to the table (Boise is the 112th largest market in the country).  All Boise State would do is take a chunk of the revenue away from the existing conference members.




Since: Dec 18, 2007
Posted on: June 17, 2010 8:48 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

Since I don't live in that area or know much about it, perhaps I'm only saying this from an outsider's perspective, but why wouldn't the MWC take Utah St. to replace Utah?  They'd get back a school to maintain a rivalry with BYU and the markets Utah brought as well as a school who's had some success in both Football and Basketball in recent years.

That being said, while I feel bad for the MWC, who has had a lot of excitement in the past 2 years and seemed to be headed towards and automatic BCS birth, I think it's demise is coming, or at the very least, some other schools will be leaving with Utah that will ensure they never get an auto-bid.  Most notably, there's the Big 12... they've stated they don't need/want to expand, but some inside sources say they're going through motions trying to decide what the best combination of teams to send offers to to get back to 12 teams, and possibly 16... In either of those scenarios, BYU and TCU make strong candidates to get at least one of the invites.




Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2010 7:27 am
 

Expand-O-Meter, Wednesday June 16

I see Houston, Nevada, & probably Tulsa heading to the MWC. All have solid basketball and football programs. U of H & TU have money. Throw in the possibility of SMU (another school with a lot of money) and now you have a nice conference with a logical geography.


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