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Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:48 am
Edited on: June 17, 2010 2:52 pm

An Orlando TV station report that Memphis and Central Florida could both receive Big East invitations "as soon as next week" has been refuted by the league, associate commissioner John Paquette told on Thursday.

"We are officially denying the Orlando station's report," Paquette said.

The station described the invitations as "highly likely" to happen.

The station's sources were characterized as "multiple college football sources."

Meantime, the Orlando Sentinel described the Orlando station's report as "premature" but added that Big East officials will privately discuss expansion during a Thursday teleconference. This all comes five days after reported that Memphis could receive an invitation to join the Big East "soon." That report came while other media reports detailed the Pac-10's plan to expand to 16 schools and eliminate the Big 12, which would've likely created a slew of movement throughout the rest of the nation. On Monday, however, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe convinced the 10 remaining Big 12 members to commit to his league. That led to the Pac-10 only inviting Utah and, almost certainly, halting expansion at 12 members, which most believe will prevent the Big Ten from raiding the Big East in an attempt to reach 16 members and by extension prevent the Big East from having to recover.

Utah is expected to accept an invitation to join the Pac-10 on Thursday afternoon.

The Big East currently features eight football-playing members and 16 schools that compete in men's basketball. The additions of Memphis and Central Florida would give the Big East 10 football-playing members and 18 schools to compete in men's basketball -- plus two notable television markets, the nation's third-largest university (UCF), and another nationally relevant basketball program (Memphis).

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2010 11:04 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

BE needs to sack up and give Notre Dame the ultimatum, all in or get out.  If they were able to land ND maybe they could get BC to come back.  Memphis and UCF would be mid-level/bottm feeders to make 12 and give them a conference championship game. 

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2010 11:00 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

USF is in Big East, UCF isn't.

Since: Jun 14, 2010
Posted on: June 18, 2010 10:27 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

adding 2 more teams in fb is a great idea to protect yourself from being totally dismantled if the acc big 10 or sec ever strike but u have drop some a ther bb teams that conf is and has been 2 big for yrs already

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2010 10:26 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

crazy legs,

It's all about the money
This is the only part of your post which is really relevant.  Do you think these schools care if it agitates you or me?  The BE is trying to remain a player.  It now looks like their football conference will survive, so this is good news for BE football fans.

As for the ECU fan:  Not trying to demean your school or your argument.  I do think ECU may be a candidate for the BE at some future date.  However, this expansion is not about past success in football (or basketball).  It is once again about the bottom line.  And unfortunately Memphis and Orlando offer more $ potential to the league.  They will develop competitive programs, just like Cincinnati, UConn and USF have.

Since: Feb 15, 2010
Posted on: June 18, 2010 10:25 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Ranking vary by source.

Forbes Top 600

 50 Notre Dame
106 Georgetown
235 Providence
263 Villanova
285 Pitt
371 Syracuse
388 UConn
391 West Virginia
417 Memphis
437 Rutgers
444 Seton Hall
445 South Florida
462 DePaul
475 Central Florida
489 Marquette
497 Louisville
504 St. John's
538 Cincinnait

Since: Sep 16, 2008
Posted on: June 18, 2010 10:25 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

You are right about the non-football schools being the heart and soul of the Big East foundation.  If you eliminate Georgetown, St. John's and Villanova, (don't forget ND is non-football) you might as well rename the conference.  However, you're mistaken about Marquette and rivalies.  Marquette has rivalies with Notre Dame, Louisville (been playing annually for the past 30+ years) and Cinncinati, dating back to Conference USA (remember the fist fights in conference championship games?).  Their profile also fits for natural rivalries with Nova and the Hoyas.  The strength of the Big East is basketball, they will never be a serious player in football and any efforts to do so  will be undermined by The Big Ten taking the best of the football schools. The Big East "brand" is basketball, don't mess with the brand.

Since: Jun 23, 2008
Posted on: June 18, 2010 10:22 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

FYI, UCF is not a commuter school.  It has the most on-campus housing of any university in the state, and the vast majority of people I knew when I went to school there were not from Central Florida.  You're right, however, in that ECU should be extended an invite.  I think UCF and ECU are the best options.

Since: Jan 1, 2008
Posted on: June 18, 2010 9:25 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Jeez I think college realignment should just go with two superconferences.  At this point why don't we just have every relevant team east of the Mississippi join the Big East and every relevant team west of the Mississippi join the Big West (new name for PAC-10).  Then we can have the winners from each conference just play each other for a championship in every collegiate sport.  I hope you all can hear my sarcasm lol.

Seriously though this whole superconference thing with teams changing conferences is getting old.  It's all about the money yet schools still get suspended and players get punished if someone gives them a free meal.  It is ridiculous and I am sick of all this crap going down so these schools can continue to maximize their exploitation of college athletes

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2010 9:15 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

I think Memphis could be a player in College Football.  Tons of talent in the South.  They do not have to get the top players in that area.  Kids may want to go there instead of Ole Miss, to name one and some of the other competition SEC schools as they would have an easier path to the BCS and playing time in a BCS conference at Memphis.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2010 9:11 am

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

If it happens, at least the Big East isn't playing the level of academic excellence like we heard from the Big 10 and Pac 10. According to US News, rankings for current Big East Schools include Notre Dame (#20), Georgetown (#23), Pittsburgh (#56), Syracuse (#58), Rutgers and UConn (#66), and Marquette (#86). Central Florida comes in at #188 and Memphis at #225.  Of course Memphis does sell out almost every home basketball game. Just don't expect them to give any competition to West Virginia, Pitt, or Cincy in football.

Agree, this is one of the reasons the conference will likely not invite these teams - some of the founding Big East schools hated the invites of Cincinnati, Louisville, and South Florida as additional Tier 3 academic programs, and with rankings of #13,#14,#15 in the conference ahead of only WVU.  The current schools, particularly the non-football members will split the conference before they give football schools a 10 to 8 voting edge and invite another low Tier 3 and its first Tier 4 academic institution which would rank #17 and #18 in academics in the 18 team conference on top of it.  For the ECU fans making the argument here - ECU is also a Tier 4, and being in the Raleigh-Durham area I hear "dumb school" jokes about it all the time, not something the Big East's elite academic schools will be quick to pull into the fold. 

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