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Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Posted on: June 17, 2010 9:48 am
Edited on: June 17, 2010 2:52 pm

An Orlando TV station report that Memphis and Central Florida could both receive Big East invitations "as soon as next week" has been refuted by the league, associate commissioner John Paquette told on Thursday.

"We are officially denying the Orlando station's report," Paquette said.

The station described the invitations as "highly likely" to happen.

The station's sources were characterized as "multiple college football sources."

Meantime, the Orlando Sentinel described the Orlando station's report as "premature" but added that Big East officials will privately discuss expansion during a Thursday teleconference. This all comes five days after reported that Memphis could receive an invitation to join the Big East "soon." That report came while other media reports detailed the Pac-10's plan to expand to 16 schools and eliminate the Big 12, which would've likely created a slew of movement throughout the rest of the nation. On Monday, however, Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe convinced the 10 remaining Big 12 members to commit to his league. That led to the Pac-10 only inviting Utah and, almost certainly, halting expansion at 12 members, which most believe will prevent the Big Ten from raiding the Big East in an attempt to reach 16 members and by extension prevent the Big East from having to recover.

Utah is expected to accept an invitation to join the Pac-10 on Thursday afternoon.

The Big East currently features eight football-playing members and 16 schools that compete in men's basketball. The additions of Memphis and Central Florida would give the Big East 10 football-playing members and 18 schools to compete in men's basketball -- plus two notable television markets, the nation's third-largest university (UCF), and another nationally relevant basketball program (Memphis).

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:37 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

A huge deterrent to it happening - or reason why some schools will be trying hard(er) for the Big Ten.  In the last round of Big East expansion, Syracuse, Georgetown, etc. really did not want to add more Tier 3 academic schools to the Big East (you can see that '05 adds make up 3 of the bottom 4 academic schools in the conference.  Memphis - Tier 4.

Since: Dec 15, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:37 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

ECU's stadium expansion will have Dowdy Ficklin stadium holding 50,000 seats and ECU has sold out the last few years.  ECU has already sold out season tickets for this year, as well as VT and UNC away tickets.  This is a rabid fan base that extents well into Raleigh, Richmond, and Charlotte.  ECU should be a no brainer for any conference!  Conference USA is holding ECU back from becoming a first class big time program.

Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:31 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

No doubt.Thought we had a shot with SEC when Texas AM was thinking that way.

Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:29 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Not going 2 happen.Nova is going 2 move up and we get philly .And some people want Boston C back but will get UMass instead when they move up

Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:23 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

if the bigeast brings in thay would still need 2 teams to hold a championship game .east carolina would be a logical 11th team but who would be the 12th marshall??temple??? navy??? or try to pry away a acc team

Since: Sep 14, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:21 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion


Running from Memphis is like running from a dead man - did you forget that Louisville was the #1 overall seed last year - did you forget we beat the #1 team in the country 2x's last year ( Syracuse ).

You know your my dude - and of course UofL fans would LOVE to play you again!

The Ville

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:19 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Adam and othe BE haters:  Please note that the average ranking of all schools for the last 2 seasons puts the BE at #3, ahead of MWC and three of the other  five conferences with automatic bids .

Since: Jun 25, 2007
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:17 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

instead of that look 4 Nova and UMass moving up and the big East bb schools divided up into 2 leagues but still splitting money.should be great 2 watch unfold.

Since: Mar 16, 2009
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:15 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

The Ville,
I'm glad you saw that.  You should also check out my thread about how Louisville and Pitno are wetting themselves at the possiblity of playing Memphis again.  Whether we get into the big east or not we're going to meet again.  The rivalry will be renewed.  And yes Louisville holds the advantage at 34 to 51 but if your coach hadn't been so scared to ditch the series right when we were getting good and say "we'll never play them again" I think we would have wooped yall over the past 5 years.  Memphis has hit it's stride over the past 5 years and even though Cal isn't here anymore we're still pulling in top recruits and we're not slowing down.  Not to mention Memphis has some of the top highschool recruits in the nation and Pastner is building a wall around the city to keep these kids at home. 

So good luck running away from Memphis....but you can't run forever.  Wink

Since: Oct 20, 2006
Posted on: June 17, 2010 5:14 pm

Big East denies Orlando TV report about expansion

Hey Adam Weiselman. I did the research for you.  Doubt you'll take the time to read it.  What is holding the MWC back is the fact that the bottom of the conference is just too weak compared to other conferences.  Please note average rankings of all schools:


Here are the unofficial latest criteria rankings, two seasons into the new four-year evaluation process, according to Jerry Palm of Six leagues get automatic BCS berths. Five don’t and are trying to get one for 2012 and 2013. First they have to qualify:

Average rank of highest-ranked team. Must be in top six:

1. Big 12 1.5

2. SEC 1.5

3. MWC 5

4. Pac-10 6

5. Big East 7.5

6. WAC 7.5

7. Big Ten 8

8. ACC 11.5

9. MAC 25.5

10. C-USA 38.5

11. Sun Belt 55.5

Average computer ranking of all teams in conference. Must be in top six:

1. SEC 38.63

2. ACC 40.34

3. Big East 42.69

4. Big 12 46.38

5. Pac-10 49.85

6. Big Ten 50.91

7. MWC 58.61

8. WAC 72.28

9. C-USA 81.34

10. MAC 86.00

11. Sun Belt 96.23

Number and ranking of teams in Top 25, adjusted for league size. Must be in top 50 percent:

1. SEC 100%

2. Big Ten 92%

3. Big 12 90.9%

4. MWC 90.9%

5. Pac-10 71.6%

6. Big East 68.2%

7. ACC 54.5%

8. WAC 39.8%

9. MAC 4.5%

10. C-USA 0%

11. Sun Belt 0%

Note : A conference can be eligible for an exemption if it is in the top six in the first two criteria, or top five in one and top seven in the other, AND within 33.3 percent of top conference in the third.

The three criteria for automatic BCS membership are:

•The average rank of a league’s highest ranked team. To get an automatic berth, one of the five have-not leagues (MWC, Western Athletic, Conference USA, Mid-American, Sun Belt) must be in the top six. Here, the MWC ranked third for 2008 and 2009, ahead of the Pac-10, Big East, Big Ten and ACC. The Big Ten and ACC rank seventh and eighth, behind the sixth-ranked WAC.

•Average computer ranking for all teams in a league. A have-not league must be in the top six. This is the only category in which the six power leagues occupied the top six spots for 2008 and 2009, according to Palm. The MWC ranked seventh.

•The number of teams in the Top 25 of the final BCS standings each year, adjusted for number of teams in a league. A have-not league must rank in the top 50 percent. Here, the MWC ranks fourth for 2008-09, ahead of the Pac-10, Big East and ACC. All six power leagues also are qualifying in this category.

Those that come close but don’t qualify in all three criteria can apply for an exemption from the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee.

Bottom line: If the rankings stayed the same for the next two seasons, the MWC would not be granted an automatic BCS berth even though it would have done better than many of the six leagues that receive automatic berths.


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