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Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Posted on: October 18, 2010 10:04 am
Edited on: October 18, 2010 10:15 am
 
That's a question I've been asked many times since Robbie Hummel tore his anterior cruciate ligament at Saturday morning's practice, and I'm afraid Purdue fans won't like my answer. But here's the truth: The Boilermakers shouldn't be considered Big Ten contenders anymore, which means they can't be ahead of Michigan State or Ohio State. I'd also hesitate to keep them ahead of Illinois. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'd probably start Purdue somewhere between 17th and 22nd in the country, and around fourth in the Big Ten (although that fourth in the Big Ten could easily be fifth or sixth if you like Wisconsin and/or Minnesota).

In other words, this is just as bad as you think.

Programs like Purdue can consistently be good, but they only get shots at greatness every once in a while. Hummel's torn ACLs -- first last season, then this season -- have taken away two of those shots. I genuinely believe the Boilermakers would've been a No. 1 seed and Final Four participant last season if Hummel was never injured, and they would've been contenders just the same this season if not for Saturday's awkward fall. Now fourth in the Big Ten seems like a reasonable goal. It's not fair. It's just reality.

But I really do hope Purdue overachieves and proves me wrong.

I hate being wrong, as you know.

But I wouldn't mind being wrong about this.
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Comments

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: October 19, 2010 9:40 am
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

This is not a knock against Hummel or Purdue. The guy just spent 6 hard months of rehab to get to the point where he could practice again and on the first day of drills he reinjures the same knee. Regardless of what the doctors say, there has to be some doubt or hesitation in the back of his mind. I think that it is only human nature to question whether he can ever go full speed again. Kalin Lucas is probably going through the same thing.



Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2010 11:34 pm
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

What is he chancing?  I've never heard of someone never walking again from a torn ACL.



Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2010 7:16 pm
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

I wouldn't be surprised if he never suits up again. Why chance it?



Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2010 2:09 pm
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Most versatile player in the nation?  Umm, no.



Since: Apr 19, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2010 2:04 pm
 

Versitality & Leadership: Huge Hole For Purdue

Versitality

Without Robbie Hummel, Purdue will miss the most versitale player in the nation who can match up with anybody in eigther the guard and forward positions, if need. That's the huge loss for Purdue coming into the 2011 season. At 6'8", he's also capable of making big plays in game-decisive situations on eigther side of the floor and able to bring the ball down the floor and set up the offense very effectively. If you look back at all their losses in game without him, his simple presence on the floor in those games would've made the difference.

Leadership

With Chris krmar's intensity missing after his graduation, Hummel was the primary intensity leader on the floor coming into the season. At least he will be on the bench, which doesn't mean much. Even when he was wearing a performance-limiting back brace during his sophmore year, the team played better with his simple presense on the floor. He's the team's catalyst and glue. Ever since he was a freshman.

Missing Numbers

Numbers are not always  importnant, as they come whenever they're needed. Purdue's going to be about 10 rebounds and 16 points short, along with possibly the nation's best free throw shooter.

Robbie's injures have been an alibi the past two seasons and this entire season will be the same way of they don't get to the NCAA Finals.



Gary Parrish is right, though. Purdue was on the verge of having the type of season that comes along seldomly, especially for a historically bittersweet program as Purdue's. They would've owned the greatest trio in all of college basketball. Purdue still has two Consensus All-American candidates coming in, including a likable Big Ten Conference Player of the Year in F/C JaJuan Johnson and a likeable scoring champ in SG, E'Twaun Moore, who will well become the fifth player in the program's history to reach the 2,000 point mark.

Purdue has a proven PG in Lewis Jackson and a handfull of young shooting guards. Purdue will remain a top 10 team throughout the season. At least this happened before the season started sot the coaching staff and team can work around this Purdue/Big Ten tragedy. The conference was becoming the most dominant along with Purdue's growth over the past four years and RObbie Hummel is a huge part of it.

Lets hope he pulls a Carl Landry and returns for his redshirted senior season



Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2010 12:27 pm
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Damn, again?  I feel for 'due fans and RH.  Purdue did beat the Gophers at home last season w/out Hummel (actually the game he went down), and I don't see much improvement with my Gophers.  At least the team can prepare going into the season with this latest loss and I'd say 'due will finish in the top 4.



Since: Jan 12, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2010 12:12 pm
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Gary,

I agree that Purdue should drop in the rankings.  There's no question about that.  But, I just don't understand suddenly counting them out of the Big Ten Title race.  They still have two of the best players in the country in JJ and Moore.  But, more importantly, they're much deeper than last season, at all positions.  They're brining in three top 100 guys, and the supporting cast from last year should be much improved. 
There's no question that MSU is now the frontrunner.  But, I have to compare Purdue to OSU.  I don't feel like their core group of guys is much better that Purdue's.  Their projected success lies much in their "supporting cast" and new guys, much like Purdue's.  It seems to me that on paper, OSU and Purdue are pretty equal, and I think both are still a notch better than everyone else but MSU.  Bottom line though, they still play the games.  Preseason rankings mean little (although it's nice to start out high).  Of course our road to Houston is a lot rougher, but I still think it's possible.



Since: Feb 25, 2010
Posted on: October 18, 2010 11:44 am
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Gary I think you are accurate.  The Big Ten is amazing this year.  But MSU is by no means a shoe in for the Big 10 title.  Don't forget Lucas tore his achiles in March, it takes at least a full year to recover.  Just as Purdue was originally ranked with the thought of a 100% healthy Hummel, MSU is ranked as if Lucas is healthy as well.  Michigan St. will be very good even as Lucas is healing but they will not have a consistent PG.  I will not predict a Big Ten winner (only because I am too proud to give props to a non Purdue team) but it may be whoever stays healthiest among MSU, OSU, and ILL.....Purdue has a chance IF the sophomores step up huge but the B10 may just be too good. Rob will be back in 2011 making next year much much more interesting.



Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2010 11:20 am
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Its obvious Purdue should be dropped, but I don't see the same significant drop others see.  Purdue are still very much in contention for a Big Ten title.  They have two players in Moore and JaJuan Johnson that have been in mix of the all big ten teams their whole careers.  One of the best SG and the best C in the Big 10 puts you on decent footing.  They have more big guys to fill in than they had at the end of last season.  More time to adjust and they were theoretically a top 16 team when they made it to the sweet 16.



Since: Mar 6, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2010 11:14 am
 

Where should Purdue be ranked now?

Thank you.


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