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Updated Top 25 (and one)

Posted on: December 19, 2010 8:46 pm
Edited on: December 20, 2010 12:24 am
 
The Top 25 (and one) will be updated on the college basketball shortly

Here's how it will look:
  1. Duke (10-0)
  2. Ohio State (10-0)
  3. Connecticut (8-0)
  4. Kansas (10-0)
  5. Syracuse (11-0)
  6. San Diego State (12-0)
  7. Pittsburgh (11-1)
  8. Michigan State (8-3)
  9. Villanova (8-1)
  10. Georgetown (10-1)
  11. Missouri (10-1)
  12. Texas (9-2)
  13. Minnesota (10-1)
  14. Kentucky (8-2)
  15. Notre Dame (10-1)
  16. Central Florida (10-0)
  17. Florida (8-2)
  18. Kansas State (9-2)
  19. Tennessee (7-2)
  20. Memphis (8-1)
  21. Baylor (7-1)
  22. BYU (10-1)
  23. Purdue (10-1)
  24. Illinois (10-2)
  25. Wisconsin (8-2)
  26. Washington State (8-1)
Category: NCAAB
Comments

Since: Aug 19, 2007
Posted on: December 21, 2010 6:54 pm
 

Still no Temple?

Gary-- you had Temple ranked in the top 15 to start the season. It didn't play especially well in the Old Spice Classic, and since you covered that tournament I'm sure that has at least a little to do with still leaving them out of the rankings. But since that time, Temple edged Maryland and Georgetown and has not lost a game. I know you're big on overall resumes... Temple has an iffy loss to Cal, a loss to an NCAA tourney-caliber A&M team, two decent wins against SHU (Hazell played in that game) and Maryland and a marquee win against Georgetown.
We were all high on Temple before the season. What's changed? 



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2010 9:58 am
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Considering it is your poll, Gary....you have the right to do as you please....however, just a hypothetical situation on why that appears narrow minded.  Let's say a #1 (pick any school but since yours is Duke we will go with that).  In a week...Duke plays at home against Southeast Missouri State (2-10), UMBC (0-11) and Savannah State (1-13) and either wins on a last second shot or goes into overtime but wins all three games.  Then a #2 (Ohio State) plays 3 ranked teams...we will say Missouri (#11 in your opinion poll), Pittsburgh (#7), and Notre Dame (#15).  The Buckeyes win each game by 15 to 20 points.

Clearly, the better team in this hypothetical situation is Ohio State...unless you don't believe your own rankings.  Obviously, this situation would almost certainly not happen.  Let's play devil's advocate and say it did.  One game could be just a freak happening.  Three games though would seem to be a red warning light.

In this case, I would have to issue a poll attack on yourself for not switching the two.  :)



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: December 21, 2010 12:51 am
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Im not saying Duke should be anything besides #1, they have earned it. I am replying to you, Mr Parrish... You said you would never move a #1 down as long as they win. Are you serious with that statement? Lets say a #2 team is playing lights out and one week they beat two top 10 teams both by double digits while the #1 team needs OT against a terrible opponent and barely beats a few other weak teams in that same week. You wouldn't move #2 up to #1? Even though they are showing they should be #1 based on their play? I think you're doing yourself (and you're readers) a disservice by not allowing your rankings to be a little more fluid. If the #2 team is clearly playing better and beating better teams than #1 they should be rewarded with the ranking that reflects their play up to that point. If they stumble then move them back down! I am not saying you are wrong, I would just like to see more results based on play, not on preseason (or prior weeks) polls or national perception. Actually, Id like to see more rankings that don't include expectations or rank based on talent. Im fairly certain MSU will right their ship and will probably make another deep run in the Tourny.. But the fact is they have 3 losses already in the season. I think 8th is rather generous here. They should be moved further down. And if they start getting good results (more quality wins) start to move them back up (even ahead of teams that won that week as well).  But hey.. I don't get paid for my opinions so what do I know?



Since: Apr 6, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2010 11:02 pm
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Duke is last year's national champion, undefeated, and has quality wins against several ranked opponents (more in fact than OSU)....anyone that would move Duke from #1 without losing is drunk or stupid.



Since: Oct 3, 2009
Posted on: December 20, 2010 12:15 pm
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Although I'm a Duke fan and I personally think Duke is the #1 team in the country right now (even without Kyrie), I can't argue with someone who would want to flip OSU into the top slot and make Duke #2.  Both teams have dominated against weak and strong competition, and both look capable of a strong run in March.  If you really do believe OSU is better, I think it's silly not to rank them #1 just because Duke didn't lose.  You don't have to lose to show signs of not being the best team (à la Kansas, who is undefeated but definitely not the top team thanks to two close, lucky wins at home against terrible competition).

Anyway, Gary, what I'm trying to say is that voting OSU #1 isn't irrational, and I think it's pretty silly to sit on Duke ONLY because they were there last week.  That said, I would personally (biasedly) still vote Duke #1 if I had the opportunity.



Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: December 20, 2010 12:25 am
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

I won't drop Duke unless Duke loses.

I never take away a No. 1 ranking when a team wins.



Since: Apr 20, 2009
Posted on: December 19, 2010 9:39 pm
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Why drop Memphis? They won after all...I understand dropping teams when they lose, but not when they win.

It is nice to see UCF in there though....wow....two C-USA teams in at the same time!Smile Is the world changing?



Since: Sep 30, 2006
Posted on: December 19, 2010 8:55 pm
 

Updated Top 25 (and one)

Is there any way Ohio State (or anyone) could move to #1 without Duke losing?...Or is it the Blue Devils to own until they lose?  Not that I'm saying OSU deserves it, I'm just wondering...Both have looked impressive so far (as has UConn).


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