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The Poll Attacks

Posted on: January 31, 2011 4:10 pm
Edited on: January 31, 2011 4:17 pm
You want to know why more than half of the AP voters have Duke outside of the top five?

Because that's where the Blue Devils belong.

You want to know why one AP voter has Duke inside of the top two?

Because ... I have no idea.

But I appreciate Ron Morris doing it because it makes for an easy Poll Attacks.

Associated Press poll: Where would you rank a team that's A) suffered two losses to currently unranked teams, B) beaten zero currently ranked teams, C) gone 2-2 against four unranked teams in true road games, and D) been without its best player since early December?

If your name is Ron Morris, you'd rank that team second.

You'd be crazy, of course.

But that's what you'd do.

Because that's what Ron did.

(You can click this link see for yourself thanks to

Granted, this is better than last week, when Ron was the lone AP voter who had Duke ahead of Ohio State. But it's still wrong because the Blue Devils' resume wasn't worthy of a No. 2 ranking last week, and it sure isn't worthy of No. 2 ranking after Sunday's blowout loss at St. Johns. To prove this, let's compare the bodies of work of the school Ron has No. 2 (Duke) and the school I have No. 2 (Pittsburgh).

----- Duke -----

Record: 19-2
Wins over currently ranked teams: 0
Losses to currently unranked teams: 2 (Florida State, St. John's)
Losses to currently ranked teams: 0

----- Pitt -----

Record: 20-2
Wins over currently ranked teams: 4 (No. 3 Texas, No. 6 Connecticut, No. 13 Georgetown, No. 17 Syracuse)
Losses to currently unranked teams: 1 (Tennessee)
Losses to currently ranked teams: 1 (No. 9 Notre Dame)

Now allow me to recap: Pitt has at least four wins better than any win Duke possesses, and Pitt has only one loss to a currently unranked team whereas Duke has two. So the Panthers have more wins than Duke, better wins than Duke and two losses that aren't as bad as Duke's two losses. And yet Ron has Duke No. 2 and Pittsburgh No. 4. I bet you a briefcase full of Charlie Sheen's coke that he couldn't possibly defend that order with anything of substance.

Coaches poll: We might find out in March that Utah State is the next Butler or George Mason or whatever, at which point this version of the Poll Attacks will look stupid. But for now the coaches ranking the Aggies 21st is what looks stupid.

What's it based on?

A bunch of bad victories?

The Aggies have played two legitimate basketball teams (BYU and Georgetown) and lost both games by an average of 11.5 points. Beyond that, they haven't done much of note. All 20 of their wins are against teams ranked outside of the Top 100 of the latest RPI, meaning Utah State is 0-2 against the Top 100 and 20-0 against teams outside of the Top 100. Congratulations, I guess. But where I'm from, that's not good enough. You want to be ranked, beat somebody. Because beating a bunch of nobodies doesn't do much for me. Again, if Utah State proves me wrong in March, I'll apologize. But for now the Aggies are just a team stacking wins against weak competition after losing their only two games against good competition.


Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: February 1, 2011 12:50 pm

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That's not a neutral court, guy. It's the heart of Big East country. If you want a neutral court, they need to play in California.

Since: Sep 23, 2008
Posted on: February 1, 2011 12:35 pm

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Speaking of a "briefcase full of CS's coke,"  maybe Ron Morris should be given a random.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: February 1, 2011 12:23 pm

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Do you like how he doesn't bring up the fact that he would rank Pittsburgh above Texas?
Why wouldn't he rank Pitt above Texas? November 19th: Pitt 68, Texas 66 on a neutral court (at Madison Square Garden)

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: February 1, 2011 12:18 pm

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Oh well, wait till March.  Then the Big East will flame out early.  (based on the last few yrs)  and the SEC will mostly be a no show. 

Yeah, like in 2009 when the Big East has 5 teams in the Sweet 16, 4 in the Elite Eight, and 2 in the Final Four. Yeah, what a terrible year by the Big East Conference!!!! ...ya may want to think before you comment.

Speaking of flaming out in the tourney, I see you have a Jayhawk avator. Oh the irony!!!!!!!

Since: Feb 1, 2011
Posted on: February 1, 2011 12:13 pm

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Do you like how he doesn't bring up the fact that he would rank Pittsburgh above Texas? 

Since: Nov 14, 2008
Posted on: February 1, 2011 11:39 am

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Everything he said in the article made sense. And Duke being over-rated?! Shocking! That only happens...almost every single year.

So because of what Duke did last year that justifies someone ranking them ahead of Ohio State or Pitt in the past two weeks THIS year? Another dumb post by some moron on CBS.

Since: Feb 1, 2011
Posted on: February 1, 2011 11:02 am

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Duke went 35 -5 last year and 13-3 in conference. What did that lead to you ask?? A National Championship!!! Go Duke. 
Another dumb article by CBS. 

Since: Feb 1, 2011
Posted on: February 1, 2011 10:54 am

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Did you say tough schedule or tough bribing the pollsters, you guys may be the 15th ranked team but not first. That #1 ranking should be reserved for any of the top team teams from the Big East. Hope to see this weak butt team in the tournament.

Since: Nov 29, 2008
Posted on: February 1, 2011 10:33 am

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I think if utah State is the next anything it would be Norhern Iowa. Remember the cute team that only lost one game last year but played nobody and then beat Kansas? Those were good days.

Since: Aug 26, 2009
Posted on: February 1, 2011 10:16 am

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Let's be homers here. Ohio State IS where they should be and Gary is right on about Duke. Sure, they are a solid club but number two? Nope, not even close. Pitt probably would blow them out right now. But hey, let's all wait until the Big Dance and see where the chips fall. At least College Basketball DOES have a playoff!
Go Buckeyes!

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