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Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

Posted on: March 3, 2011 7:14 am
Brandon Davies was suspended from BYU's basketball team for the remainder of the season because he violated the part of the school's honor code provision that prohibits premarital sex, according to a report in The Salt Lake Tribune.

The paper reported that Davies acknowledged the violation to BYU officials Monday.

BYU announced Davies' suspension on Tuesday.

"Everyone makes mistakes in their life," said BYU's Charles Abouo. "We are reaching out and trying to help him get through this."

Davies was averaging 11.1 points and a team-leading 6.2 rebounds. The No. 3 Cougars lost 82-64 Wednesday night to New Mexico in their first game without Davies. They close the regular season Saturday against Wyoming.
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Since: Oct 26, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2011 5:14 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I'm with you bballa, bush has cost me a lot of money over the years!

Since: Mar 3, 2011
Posted on: March 3, 2011 5:09 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

It was bush's fault

Since: Oct 26, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2011 5:00 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

A question for the BYU fans/alums/students who are posting here:  How exactly do the 'BYU Officials' find out about these things?  Is there a requirement that a student 'acknowledge the violations' to university officials once committed?  Was he asked about this or turned in?  I'm not trying to be coy or funny, I'm just wondering and I am respect the University for their principles.     

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:52 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I suppose that you read the contract that accompanied your installation of windows or any other software that you purchase and install on your computer. You check the box and move on. I, would bet he and most BYU students don't even know how  the code reads. The signing of a document does not mean that you understand it's meaning.

Since: Dec 21, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:46 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

97% of males who attend BYU take a 2-year break to go do missionary services.  You honestly think you can get 97% of college-aged males to agree to something like that on their own?
Speaking of wondering what sources someone is using, where did you get this number?  97%?  I really doubt that.

And in answer to your question, yes, that many males (if that's the actually number) agree to do that on their own.  No one forces anyone to go on a mission.  Having served one myself and having many friends that have (many of which did not attend BYU), it is a our own concious decision.  Sure, men are encouraged to go because of the experience and growth it entails, but there are certainly no consequences to be suffered (other than your own missed out and invaluable experiences).  Just look at Jimmer Fredette.  He didn't go, and he's certainly not being "shunned" or whatever else you think actually motivates us to go on missions.  I respect Jimmer (and others that don't go, including some of my friends in the church) for their own personal decisions, even though I know that serving a mission provided me some of the greatest learning and development experiences thus far in my life.
BYU is the most difficult school to get into in the nation (Princeton Review).
This is referring to BYU-Hawaii on the island of O'ahu, not the BYU most people know about (in Provo, UT), which has more to do with the audience the school was designed for (pacific islanders, etc.), and not because it's incomparably prestigious.  And I can't recall if it's "the most difficult" to get into, but it is most definitely in the top 5.

Davies knew what he was getting into - we all do that go to BYU - and the mass majority of which don't violate the Honor Code and get suspended or kicked out.  We're not super-human, without the same desires or whatever, it's just a matter of personal self-control and avoiding those potentially comprimising situations altogether (not having alcohol sure helps too).  We all make mistakes, some just more severe than others, which warrant more "severe" consequences.  I really do wish Davies the best of luck, and I hope he can demostrate that he can live the honor code from here on out and still stay in school.

Since: Oct 14, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:38 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I imagine the horney BYU students are both angry at Davies and envious at the same time.  "What's it like Big Brandon? Huh?  Tell us please!"  What was Davies thinking? Is it more honorable to break the honor code and for the good of your team and school keep your mouth shut or should you break the code and confess publicly?  The Jimmer and teammates...are they more PO'D that he had sex or that he blew the whistle on himself?  Yes religious private schools have the right to make their own rules.  But the Mormons are a pseudo-Christian sect, not a denomination or a religion.

Since: Mar 3, 2011
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:32 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

Surely BYU is not the only place left in the country where people are expected, (and agree) to live a chaste life, and for the most part do just that.  Millions are able to do this.  BTW, contrary to popular opinion, Mormons are not polygamists. 

That is pretty good when an athlete in todays world is big enough to stand up and admit to breaking his agreement, like Brandon did.  It's too bad he is a public figure, but he will be a better man down the road because of it.  Do you have your own personal code of honor?

Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:22 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

"People that ran them out were afraid of losing influence by simple math."

hahaha traumfabrik, really? No, seriously, really? Yeah, I bet all the other religious groups were terrified by the mormons far reaching influence and massive numbers. The Amish became a threat too, thats why they were basically sent off to Pennsylvania. hahahaha The mormons were essentially sent to one part of the country because the rest of the world is far to advanced to deal with their nonsensical belief system.


Yes, really.  FYI, I'm an agnostic historian in grad school at tOSU...not exactly a Mormon sympathizer.  The truth is, very few groups are run out of an area so long as they appear to not be a threat.  The only thing that really spurs people to action against a whole religion is the perception that said religion threatens their way of life.  If it wasn't a matter of political influence, and they really just thought they were a kooky sect, why would they bother going after them?  There are strange, at times distasteful religious groups all over the country...always have been.  BTW, at the time the Mormons were expelled from Illinois, their city, Nauvoo, had about the same population as Chicago.  In other words, the city went from a very small community, barely warranting a post office, to one of the top 15 cities in the country by size. 

But don't let history get in the way of your bigotry.  I really wish you were a Michigan just seems to fit you better (yes, I'm aware of the irony of casting dispersions on the whole of the Michigan fan's in jest).

Since: Nov 18, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:20 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

 positive correlation of perception of Mormons and level of education.  Meaning, that the more educated one tends to be, the more likely that person will think highly of Mormons.  PhD recipients have the highest perception of Mormons in the U.S.  So, those who bash the school, the students, or the church tend to be lower educated people.  Just a warning about who you are getting grouped into.

This is a classic tactic used by the MLM organization that is the LDS church.  Complete with self-aggrandizement through personal attacks on the opposition and fear tactics to discourage changing one's thoughts away from their own.

Let me point out another positive correlation - that the more intelligent one tends to be, the more susceptible one is to hypnotic suggestion.  If a lifetime of focus on a single topic, augmented by self-induced suggestion during moments of heightened mental susceptibility (ie. prayer) won't convince someone that they're feeling the spirit and their church is absolutely true, I don't know what will.

Since: Mar 3, 2011
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:17 pm

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

"We've got massive, rampant employment, illegal wars with thousands of soliders dying, and tons of other REAL problems, and these sick freaks are worried about a guy banging out his girlfriend? BYU gets exactly what they deserve if this costs them a run in the tourney, money, or whatever else. PATHETIC!"
Sheesh, with all the woes in the world, how can these guys inforce their honor code?  We should all just lay down and die, I suppose.  My retort would be, with all the troubles in the world, why are you posting stupid crap on CBSSPORTSLINE?
I'd say that in these troubled times, we need real men.  Men with honor and control.  

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