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Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

Posted on: March 3, 2011 7:14 am
 
Brandon Davies was suspended from BYU's basketball team for the remainder of the season because he violated the part of the school's honor code provision that prohibits premarital sex, according to a report in The Salt Lake Tribune.

The paper reported that Davies acknowledged the violation to BYU officials Monday.

BYU announced Davies' suspension on Tuesday.

"Everyone makes mistakes in their life," said BYU's Charles Abouo. "We are reaching out and trying to help him get through this."

Davies was averaging 11.1 points and a team-leading 6.2 rebounds. The No. 3 Cougars lost 82-64 Wednesday night to New Mexico in their first game without Davies. They close the regular season Saturday against Wyoming.
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Since: Jun 22, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:10 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I think most of you miss the point.  BYU is a private religious school.  It has the right to make any student sign an honor code agreeing to live by the standards of the religion.

I think you miss the point too.  Just because BYU has the right to do certain things, it doesn't mean they are immune from criticism when they do them.

BYU is the most difficult school to get into in the nation (Princeton Review).

I don't know what copy of the Princton Review you are reading, but BYU is nowhere near the most difficult school to get into.  They accept 68% of the kids that apply there and the average ACT score is 28, putting them on par with Texas and Ohio State.


they have a sincere tradition of service to others.  The fact that they don't glamorize the Thug Life and aspire to a higher standard,
How long did you say you've been a member of the Church of LDS?  I hope you don't fall getting off that high horse of yours.  97% of males who attend BYU take a 2-year break to go do missionary services.  You honestly think you can get 97% of college-aged males to agree to something like that on their own?  And if the men really are so sincere, why is that only 32% of the women at BYU do the same thing?  Are the men twice as sincere as the women?



Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:05 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

You'r right, God would laugh at their policies (honor code). I will bet that the kid never read the code and just wanted to get an education and play basketball for fun and maybe for profit in the long run. If you ask him if he was read his rights, the code, he would tahe the fifth since I bet that the code is never recited to him or any other entering student. If in fact it were read the freshman class would resemble line at the IRS pleading guilty to filing a bogus tax return. The kid got hoodwinked. I am sure that the president and other officials of the University are lilly clean on the extra curricular Sex scene.
My understanding is that not only did he have to read it, but the students are made to read and sign it yearly.  Not only that, but the code is read and signed prior to even attending the school.  I don't think anyone is perfect, but the rules were clearly stated to him.  I actually think credit has to be given to the school for enforcing their rules rather than trying to bypass them for a star athlete.  It's unfortunate, but it's not like he didn't know.



Since: Sep 17, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 4:02 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I'm a BYU grad (physics) now at Harvard Business School, and want to set a few things straight:
1)  Re: kensport, Davies is a Mormon.  He grew up in Provo, went to Provo high, and decided to stay in Provo to play for BYU.  Each admitted student has to ecclesiastical endorsement from two religious leaders (not necessarily a Mormon religious leader).  During each interview, then entire Honor Code is read.  We also re-sign the Honor Code at the beginning of each school year.  The kid was not "hoodwinked", and is in fact remorseful.
2)  Re: kensport, the school administration is super clean, just take my word for it.
3)  Caffeine is okay.  Coffee and tea are not, but people drink Coke, Pepsi, etc. on campus.
4)  Re: jeffbear, Davies was self-reported.  He went in to the Honor Code office and reported himself.  (But I appreciate the compliments.)
I have been very impressed with most of the comments by users and the media coverage.  I really appreciate the kind words.  I know that most people don't understand the Honor Code.  It is very restrictive in many, many ways (I got sent home from class once for not shaving).  But it instills amazing discipline, which leads to ultimate success.  The culture of living by a Word of Honor comes from the first school president, and permeates the entire campus.  
Incidentally, a year or two ago the Pew Research Center demonstrated a positive correlation of perception of Mormons and level of education.  Meaning, that the more educated one tends to be, the more likely that person will think highly of Mormons.  PhD recipients have the highest perception of Mormons in the U.S.  So, those who bash the school, the students, or the church tend to be lower educated people.  Just a warning about who you are getting grouped into.



Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:46 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

It tells me that people like to kick things....



Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:44 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I think most of you miss the point.  BYU is a private religious school.  It has the right to make any student sign an honor code agreeing to live by the standards of the religion.  Those of you that want to belittle the religious beliefs of Mormons need to take a good look at your own beliefs:  wine from water, Dead Sea parting, world created in 7 days, a man living inside a whale for a good while, etc...  I'm not really sure what the point to all the hating really is.  Mormons seem to excel at pretty much everything they do.  BYU is the most difficult school to get into in the nation (Princeton Review).  A high percentage of their young people speak a second language fluently and have lived abroad and because they are taught to focus on things other than their own gratification, they have a sincere tradition of service to others.  The fact that they don't glamorize the Thug Life and aspire to a higher standard, while maybe annoying, is worth of some measure of respect.   Besides, it wasn't the premarital sex alone, it was drinking a Coke afterwards.


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Since: Jan 26, 2008
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:30 pm
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Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:29 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

You'r right, God would laugh at their policies (honor code). I will bet that the kid never read the code and just wanted to get an education and play basketball for fun and maybe for profit in the long run. If you ask him if he was read his rights, the code, he would tahe the fifth since I bet that the code is never recited to him or any other entering student. If in fact it were read the freshman class would resemble line at the IRS pleading guilty to filing a bogus tax return. The kid got hoodwinked. I am sure that the president and other officials of the University are lilly clean on the extra curricular Sex scene.



Since: Sep 16, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:26 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

I'm  not a Morman nor a BYU fan.   I can't help but point out  that  the military acadamies  (Army, Navy,Air Force) have honor codes that contain behavior that will cause  expulsion but would not cause any problem in a public university. Most universities founded upon religion have honor codes.  The honor  codes are for all students, not just athletes.  During the first recuiting visit for a potential athlete the honor code is discussed and a written copy  provided (have a friend recruited by BYU).  Now being an Aztec, I have no use for BYU but they are up  front about their beliefs and live by them as well as any flawed human beings.   Everyone saying they wouldn't go to BYU is kinda funny.  You  couldn't get in anyway.  They do not make people go to school in Provo.



Since: Sep 10, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:25 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

okay the caffeine part is over the top.  But on the other hand, these guys knew exactly what the rules were coming into this college they signed a contract.  the kid knew he had made a mistake, but come onnnn you suspend him the whole season for that?  That's like firing a girl from a job for wearing too much makeup.  this punnishment is far to harsh.



Since: Sep 30, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2011 3:21 pm
 

Report: BYU suspended Davies for premarital sex

Joseph Smith did this!!!!!


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