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Posted on: March 7, 2011 7:54 pm
 
Whitelaw Reid was the only voter who put Duke No. 1 last week. I ignored it because I'm kind. But now Whitelaw's done gone and went straight Whitelaw on us again, and I can't ignore him a second time. So welcome back to the Poll Attacks, Mr. Reid. It really has been too long.

(Details of AP ballots courtesy of PollSpeak.com.)

Associated Press poll: Let's make this simple and just compare two resumes blindly.

----- Team A -----

Overall record: 24-6
RPI: 6
Record against the Top 50: 6-4
Record against the Top 100: 14-5
Wins over teams ranked in the latest AP poll: 2

----- Team B -----

Overall record: 25-6
RPI: 16
Record against the Top 50: 2-4
Record against the Top 100: 8-5
Wins over teams ranked in the latest AP poll: 0

Team A is clearly more accomplished, right? Team A has a better RPI, a better record against the top 50, a better record against the top 100 and two wins over schools ranked in the latest AP poll compared to Team B's zero wins over schools ranked in the latest AP poll. Team A is North Carolina. Team B is Arizona. And their resumes aren't even close, which is why the Tar Heels are ranked sixth and the Wildcats are ranked 16th this week.

Guess who has that damn-near backwards?

Yep, Poll Attacks veteran Whitelaw Reid from The Daily Progress.

He's got Arizona ranked No. 9 and North Carolina ranked No. 15 on his ballot.

I can't make sense of it.

I bet he can't either.

Coaches poll: I doubted and discounted Cincinnati much of this season and applauded those who were with me. But at some point it's impossible to ignore the Bearcats' resume, and we reached that point over the past week when Cincinnati won at Marquette and then beat Georgetown. Yes, the win over Georgetown is a win over the Hoyas sans Chris Wright. But it's still a win that pushed the Bearcats to 24-7 and allowed them to finish sixth in a Big East conference that has seven members ranked in the latest coaches poll.

The problem?

Cincinnati isn't one of the seven.

Which is crazy considering the Bearcats have five top-25 RPI wins and zero losses outside of the top 35 of the RPI. Not to pick on Utah State, but the Aggies have zero top-25 RPI wins and a loss to Idaho (129th in the RPI), and they're ranked 17th in the coaches poll that doesn't rank UC at all. Again, that's crazy. And you'll see just how crazy next Sunday when the Bearcats get a better seed than Utah State in the NCAA tournament despite being ranked much lower in the coaches poll.
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Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2011 8:48 am
 

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again to be fair the #1 seeds should be
EAST   if pitt or nd win conf tournament winner is 1 seed some1 else wins then OHIO STATE
SOUTH   DUKE VS UNC WINNER IS A #1 SEED
MIDWEST Ohio st if pitt nor nd win big east if they dont then KANSAS
WEST  this 1 is easy   BYU SDSU winner is 4th seed



SO AM I MISSING SOMETHING? or are you truly saying #2 Kansas will only get a 1 seed if Pitt or ND do not win the Big East, or what? Could we try less excited english, because you're going to have to clarify how the #2 team in the nation would only be a 1 seed via some technicality that your grammar doesn't allow us to know.



Since: Mar 11, 2007
Posted on: March 8, 2011 6:00 pm
 

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why oh why is wisconsin #10 in your POLL GARY
with wins over
prarie view
n dakota
manhatten
nc state
s. dakota
uw-milwaukee
green bay  (WHO)
coppin state
LOSSES TO    UNLV  NOTRE DAME  MICH ST  PENN ST  PURDUE
AND THEN TO OHIO STATE BY   25(TWENTY FIVE)  wow
ah they in the big 10 but dont fell so bad Gary the
ap and coaches have em 13th what a joke all  of you are this
year

again to be fair the #1 seeds should be
EAST   if pitt or nd win conf tournament winner is 1 seed some1 else wins then OHIO STATE
SOUTH   DUKE VS UNC WINNER IS A #1 SEED
MIDWEST Ohio st if pitt nor nd win big east if they dont then KANSAS
WEST  this 1 is easy   BYU SDSU winner is 4th seed

fairness  each REGION SHOULD OWN A #1 SEED IT IS BIASED NOT to award a team from each
region this crap started recently b4 it was always FAIR now for the MONEY

will the acc make it 3 in a row...which team or teams will beat UNC/DUKE?  looking forward to this
      
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Since: Sep 22, 2006
Posted on: March 8, 2011 4:18 pm
 

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So you're sick of the OOC argument ... I suppose you're just going to ignore Cincy's opening what, five, six losses to "ranked teams" as well?  Convenient.  The only "last three weeks" that count are the REAL "last three weeks."  Otherwise, you have to live with Cincy's crap schedule out of conference and those losses.  Cincy is still, after that nice little run, a sub .500 team against the Top 50--just like Utah State.



Since: Aug 7, 2009
Posted on: March 8, 2011 3:56 pm
 

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I'm sick of hearing about OOC scheduling, it's done years in advance. Is it our fault Oklahoma had a down year? Is it our fault Dayton had a down year? Playing at Miami (OH) is always difficult, especially for in-state rivals, just ask Xavier. Oh, speaking of Xavier, we dismantled them too.

The out of conference schedule wasn't great, but by the time the season started, the only thing we could do about it was win every game and we did.



Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: March 8, 2011 3:43 pm
 

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Arizona will be bounced out of the tourney in the first weekend... UNC will not be bounced in the first two weekends



Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2011 2:11 pm
 

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GT Really? Larry Drew II. ummm I think he's gone and what has happened since? Come back with something that holds water.



Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2011 2:01 pm
 

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If their rusume wasn't good or even great then why are they ranked 6th? Oh btw none of the top five rusumes look better than UNC's. They all look the same.



Since: Oct 4, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2011 1:22 pm
 

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To all you Arizona fans - in your evaluation of your team, don't forget that you lost to Oregon State, proud owner of an RPI ranking of 231.  These things are considered in the final seeding.

Also, the fact that Derrick Williams fouled out against Kansas is not entirely bad luck - it's also a strong indication that he was being given bigger challenges inside than he could handle.  He's a terrific player, but even terrific players can have problems with Kansas' front line.



Since: Nov 6, 2007
Posted on: March 8, 2011 1:00 pm
 

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and i doubt that UNC will cool off between now and friday, if so it doesn;t matter who are they ginna have to play a team like GEorgia Tech, woowe



Since: Nov 6, 2007
Posted on: March 8, 2011 12:58 pm
 

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Yeah UNC has such a great resume, they beat up on teams that almost make the tourney. Congrats. i can't belive you are even bragging about those wins.


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