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The referees hate Villanova

Posted on: February 11, 2008 10:28 pm
Edited on: February 11, 2008 10:36 pm
AUSTIN, Texas -- I'm here at the Kansas-Texas game so I just saw a replay of the Villanova-Georgetown finish.

Holy moly!

They've been playing basketball for many decades.

So I suppose there have been worse calls in the sport.

But I can tell you I have never seen a worse call that decided a game, and nobody here in the media room could remember one either. I mean, how do you call that type of foul in a tie game 70-feet from the basket with less than a second remaining? It wasn't only bad, it was inexcusable to the point where the official who made the call should have to issue a public apology to Villanova and college basketball fans in general just like Illinois athletic director Ron Guenther had to apologize to Indiana last week.

And if you're keeping count, that's twice this season that Villanova has lost a game in the final second because of a questionable call (the other was against North Carolina State) and twice this season that Georgetown has won a game in the final second because of a questionable call or no-call (the other was against West Virginia).

In other words, referees clearly hate Jay Wright and love John Thompson III.

There is no other explanation.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Feb 11, 2008
Posted on: February 16, 2008 2:59 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I will loss the caps today....thanks for correcting me.

Cuse smoked your G-town team today.   What happenned?  Should they be hanging their heads today?

Thanks for explaining that all games are tough, it was evident today.  Cuse absolutely dominated every aspect of the game and Gtown looked horrible.

I'm wondering if they should even be considered among the top hoops program.  Let's face it, L-ville handled them, they got lucky against Nova, and Cuse crushed them.

I'm wondering who i should call out, you obviously believe J Thompson is not responsible for his team's play, so I will call out the entire team.  How's that sound??

Play like this in March and its bye bye Gtown!!!!! 

Oh yeah, and don't try to explain this away by saying the game was at Syracuse, if you want to be considered an elite team you have to play like it every game. 

Great teams don't play crap basketball 3 consecutive games.


Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2008 9:07 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Oh, and lest I's another Villanova "hater" for Mr. Parrish.

"Hank Nichols, the NCAA's national coordinator of basketball officials for nearly 20 years and, by the way, a member of Villanova's Athletic Hall of Fame, said he had watched a video of the play several times in slow motion.

"When a guy has the ball and gets body-bumped and the body bump forces him to go out of bounds . . . the referee has two choices," Nichols said yesterday. "He either has to call the foul or call the guy for out of bounds. It's the judgment on the referee's part on what was more important on the play."

"Regardless of how much time is left at the end of the game, if there's a call to be made, you call it," he said. "It doesn't matter the time or score, because if you don't, and it's a meaningful play, somebody's going to get the bad end of it because you didn't do what you were supposed to do."

On to the next sportswriter-generated, pseudo-contoversy for the "worst call evah" crowd. 

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2008 5:07 pm

The referees hate Villanova

A foul is a foul.  The people who are ranting about a "tiny little bump" either did not really see the play, or are unwilling to place the blame where it should lie...on the Villanova player.

Like the ESPN announcers who were hyperventilating so much they didn't notice the play actually occurred with one second left, Mr. Parrish is doing something that's all too common in the news today...trying to create controversy where none exists.  There is a very clear angle on this play that shows the "Nova player's leg impeding the dribbler.  It's called a foul.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2008 4:45 pm

The referees hate Villanova

lol...yeah my bad about the vandy thing...slip of the mind

i wasn't really arguing with your post, i agree with most of it.  i thought it was a fould, you didn't.  simple disagreement.  if you think it honestly wasn't a foul, then that's fine.  i can completely understand that.  people interpret the rules differently.  if everyone interpreted them the same, then a lot of hecklers would be out of a job.

nope, no john thompson connection there, it seems that me and the gtown coach have the same initials haha

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2008 3:20 pm

The referees hate Villanova

jt4mvp: First of all, the school's involved here are Villanova and Georgetown, not Vandy and Georgetown.  Secondly, apologies for assuming a G'town connection, I was interpreting the jt as John Thompson.  Finally, I'm not even 2 years out of Nova myself and have played ball since I was very young (owing to having a high school coach as a father).  I'm more than aware of how mich a bump throws you off at full speed ( I played point guard) and have ended up under scorers tables more times than I can remember from plays just like that one, although from much more serious contact.

I never implied the refs cared who won, I merely stated that in choosing to enforce the rules differently at different parts of the game they are deciding who wins.  f the game is called consistently throughout then the game is fair, the rules are the same in the first tenth as the last so any action that is a foul should be called in either case.  I agree with you that even being in the vicinity of the G'town player was not smart (the same type of unawareness cost us the NC State game as I mentioned) but I am saying that the contact in question, which was slight at best, does not constitute a foul at any part of the game, last tenth or otherwise.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 11:41 pm

The referees hate Villanova

ZamboniClark:   &nbs
p;     AMEN!!!!!  The essence of my whole argument in different words.

nova227:    &nb
sp;     &n
bsp;    I'm glad you understand my argument.  But no, I have no affiliation with either school, and really don't care who won the game.  I go to Michigan State, and am a hardcore Big Ten fan.  The only part of the game I caught was the foul in question and the free throws.  I also agree that the actual nature of the foul was questionable, at best.  It was one of those calls that some refs will call and others won't.  So if anyone's argument is that it is NEVER a foul when that happens, then that's perfectly understandable, and I respect your opinion (I just wonder when the last time you dribbled down the sideline at full speed and had a defender slightly bump you...throws you off more than you might think!!!)

I just can not fathom the argument that the "refs are deciding the game".  Do you really think they care who wins???  Players choose to foul other players.  It's just the ref's job to call it as he sees it, for 40 minutes of basketball.  And if the game is tied after those 40 minutes, then by golly, he gets to call it for another five. 

If I were a Vandy fan, I would be a little disgusted with my players' lack of court smarts.  There's about 1 rule at that stage of the game, and that's DON'T MAKE A STUPID FOUL THAT WILL PUT THE OPPONENT ON THE FREE THROW LINE, THUS GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIN THE GAME

Georgetown: don't brag about this one.  you got bailed out by a stupid play

"So many of us blame referees for losses, who out there has thanked one for a win?"

Since: May 26, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 7:18 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I agree with you... the players should determine the outcome of the game, not the refs!  that was a lame call and the game shouldve gone into OT

Since: Feb 8, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 6:04 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I totally agree with Mr. Parrish here. That was possibly one of the worst calls (if not the worst) that I have ever witnessed in a basketball game. That call truly cost 'Nova the game and the ref that made the call should be straight up ashamed. You just have to swallow the whistle at that point because that tiny little bump wasn't going to effect the outcome of the game for either team, even it was out-of-bounds, because there still would not have been enough time for Villanova to score in regulation. It's sad too because Villanova was completely outplaying Georgetown in the last 2 minutes of the game, and I think that if they kept it up, they would've won in OT.

Since: Oct 17, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 5:53 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Sorry,  You are way off here.  He called the foul before he went out of bounds..  Check the replay buddy.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 5:37 pm

The referees hate Villanova

He was never touched g'town is overated they have no shot to advance far into the field of 64!!!! that was a crime last nite!

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