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The referees hate Villanova

Posted on: February 11, 2008 10:28 pm
Edited on: February 11, 2008 10:36 pm
AUSTIN, Texas -- I'm here at the Kansas-Texas game so I just saw a replay of the Villanova-Georgetown finish.

Holy moly!

They've been playing basketball for many decades.

So I suppose there have been worse calls in the sport.

But I can tell you I have never seen a worse call that decided a game, and nobody here in the media room could remember one either. I mean, how do you call that type of foul in a tie game 70-feet from the basket with less than a second remaining? It wasn't only bad, it was inexcusable to the point where the official who made the call should have to issue a public apology to Villanova and college basketball fans in general just like Illinois athletic director Ron Guenther had to apologize to Indiana last week.

And if you're keeping count, that's twice this season that Villanova has lost a game in the final second because of a questionable call (the other was against North Carolina State) and twice this season that Georgetown has won a game in the final second because of a questionable call or no-call (the other was against West Virginia).

In other words, referees clearly hate Jay Wright and love John Thompson III.

There is no other explanation.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 5:24 pm

The referees hate Villanova

jt4mvp, clearly you're a hardcore homer on this one but the overall arguement is sound.  The rules are the rules regardless of the time on the clock, the fact that the entirety of the game is called in exactly the same fashion is actually putting the game in the hands of the players because theya re playing within a consistent set of rules for the entire duration of the game.  If the ref chooses when to enforce and not to enforce the rules then he is deciding the game.

That being said, last night's play was not a foul.  While I did attend Nova and therefore was of course rooting for a Wildact victory I did also play, coach, and ref plenty of basketball games myself.  Earlier in the season I defended the officials when we lost the game mentioned above to NC State.  That was a ticky-tack foul but a foul just the same and we should have lost that game for the mental error which caused the foul.  This play however was far different, the contact was initiated just as much by the Georgetown player (using his off forearm) as was created by Anderson's hip/torso.  If that play took place earlier in the game no foul would have been called and it would have led to a Hoyas fastbreak.

While I agree with you wholeheartedly that officials should not ref the game based on time and score wwe do disagree as to whether or not this particular play was a foul.  If you look at the play objectively it was not a foul.

Since: Nov 26, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 5:05 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I was thinkng the exact same thing dude.

Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 4:49 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I'm a Hoya fan and I agree it was a bad call. "Nickle dimer" as Bill Raftery would say, but for Gary to suggest there is a conspiracy theory for Georgetown with the refs is garbage. In regards to the WVU game and the controversial the replay as Ewing blocks the ball at its apex. If you are biased and hate Georgetown you need to not reply because I already know your answer.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 4:45 pm

The referees hate Villanova

This may have been stated previously, but the refs decide the game either way in that situation.  Not calling the foul has just as big of an affect on the game as calling the foul.  I have never understood the mentality of "let the kids decide the outcome."  When a ref swallows the whistle he is still making a choice and determining the outcome.   In fact he is determining the outcome in an unjust manner by allowing actions that were called fouls earlier. 

Somebody referenced the Indiana/Illinois game and the fact that the referees allowed an Illinois player to maul DJ White at the end of regulation.  That is not the poster child for good officiating, it is the exact opposite.  That play should have been whistled a foul.  DJ White should have been given three free throws.  Maybe if more officials actually called the entire, then the games won't devolve into rugby scrums just because it is in the final minute or just because it is in overtime.  More importantly, maybe then the tournaments will look more like the regular season.  Games should be decided based upon play within the rules, they should not be decided by which team got away with more. 

Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 4:38 pm

The referees hate Villanova

The key to how the refs call a game is consistency. This was not evident in the GU, Nova game. Every complaint that a GU fan is making is that it was a foul and therefore the ref made the right decision; because it shouldnt matter when in a game the foul call comes. This is true, but it was unconsistent from the flow of the game.1) You can't call a touch foul to decide a game with free throws (the ref should have been praying for those fro's to rim out) 2. If you were paying attention you would have seen that Scottie got fouled while driving about 3 times there at the end(with way more contact than the foul that was actually called) and no foul was called. So if you look at it from a "fair" and neutral standpoint, Scottie should have been shooting the free throws to win the game. A few seconds later a tiny graze of a jersey happens and a whistle is blown to decide the game. It doesnt matter if you're a GU fan, a Nova fan, or if you don't even watch basketball. This was a bad ending to a good game. I bet if you asked the GU players they wouldn't even have wanted it to end that way.....

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 4:35 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Watch a Georgetown game first before you think the refs are on our jock. We play an agressive, hard-fought defense and get called for more fouls, and shoot less free throws, in almost every one of our games. So that is just a bullsh*t statement. Especially after watching Reynolds get to the line about 15 times in the last 8 minutes from touch fouls or phantom calls. We got hosed as much as 'Nova did all night, it was a terribly officiated game altogether. 'Nova just got hosed when it counted most, and that wasn't good. I hated to see us win like that, but it's over now

Since: Sep 15, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 4:01 pm

The referees hate Villanova

jt4mvp....I suspect you are either a) the ref that made the call, or b) an immediate family of the ref that made that call. Those are the only two options that could explain your post. It was a bad call and you know it.

Since: Oct 27, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:44 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Is there an agreement between college sports hiearchy and sportswriters not to use the word "fix"? Or is it just to bash anyone who does use it. If you saw Georgetown v Villanova, Tn v Rutgers (women) or any close game involving TX; you might wonder ...

Since: Oct 22, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:38 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Oh My he was on his cell phone... are you kidding me.

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:29 pm

The referees hate Villanova

The refs don't hate Nova, The REF just happened to have a LOT of $$MONEY$$ on the Under 133 total points in the game... think about it, if he doesn't make that call with .1 tics left, then the game is going to overtime and his bet of under 133 total points is in jeopardy! This is the reasoning behind the call!

Come on now, with what came out about the NBA and the refs betting on those games... this isn't too far fetched at all.

CNN reported that they saw this ref talking on his cell phone a few minutes before tipoff.


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