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The referees hate Villanova

Posted on: February 11, 2008 10:28 pm
Edited on: February 11, 2008 10:36 pm
AUSTIN, Texas -- I'm here at the Kansas-Texas game so I just saw a replay of the Villanova-Georgetown finish.

Holy moly!

They've been playing basketball for many decades.

So I suppose there have been worse calls in the sport.

But I can tell you I have never seen a worse call that decided a game, and nobody here in the media room could remember one either. I mean, how do you call that type of foul in a tie game 70-feet from the basket with less than a second remaining? It wasn't only bad, it was inexcusable to the point where the official who made the call should have to issue a public apology to Villanova and college basketball fans in general just like Illinois athletic director Ron Guenther had to apologize to Indiana last week.

And if you're keeping count, that's twice this season that Villanova has lost a game in the final second because of a questionable call (the other was against North Carolina State) and twice this season that Georgetown has won a game in the final second because of a questionable call or no-call (the other was against West Virginia).

In other words, referees clearly hate Jay Wright and love John Thompson III.

There is no other explanation.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:29 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Yes there were way more fouls called against clemson, however look at the difference in the way Clemson actually plays defense and carolina was attacking them, and carolina doesnt pressure defense nearly as much and clemson did not attack the basket.  I can understand being mad at your team and your coach for blowing or choking that game away, but the refs gimme a break and stop all this whining.

Since: Oct 22, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:21 pm

The referees hate Villanova

1 there was an amazing amount of fouls in the game why should it change in the last couple seconds?

2 Wallace was denied a shot because of the foul. yes the shot would be a one in a million shot but theres still a chance.

3 blame the player for making such a stupid mistake by causing the collision not the refs for calling the foul and there was a foul.

Since: Dec 5, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:01 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I was there dude and play was right in front of me about 20 feet away! Did you even see the play to make an opinion like that one - i hope so. Game clock should have disappeared but it was in DC - he barely touched him and yes It should not have been called - there is some contact in basketball game due - wtf up!

Since: Sep 5, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 3:00 pm

The referees hate Clemson, not Villanova

Of course, people notice when the referee delivers the Pontiac Game-Changing performance, but they pay no mind when the ref is the MVP of an entire game by creating a 36-7 free throw discrepancy and calling, in a double overtime game, 14 fouls on one team while calling 31 on the other.

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:59 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Districtfan, are you kidding me? Have you ever played basketball before? I think that if you have, you would know that the side line is often used as an extra defender. The 'bump' barely altered the play and Wallace said himself he thought the ref called him out of bounds (Even he knew that that 'bump' was not a foul). And no, he didn't need to make one of the two calls. What he should've done is let the clock run out and take what had been a close, rough game into overtime.

Since: Oct 27, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:58 pm

The referees hate Villanova

I did say that the refs shouldnt determine the outcome of the game. And you are right it was a horribly reffed game...

All the Nova player had to do is just not even get close to Wallace and the call would have never been called..Just step away, chances are very slim that he was going to make that shot.

Come on looking at the replay you are telling me that he never put his body into Wallace? Wallace never stepped out of bounds and wouldnt have stepped out of bounds.

I would have been mad also if the call was the other way around...Take for instace the Hoya-Ohio St game last year where Greg Oden pushed intentionally a Hoya player but was never called and the Hoyas went onto lose the game...We got over it and that was the end of our season, Nova still has time to play, you have what 7 games to go in the BE schedule and then the BE tourney, of course yes that lost did put them in the bottom 4 of the league in which they wouldnt make the BE tourney.   

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:53 pm

The referees hate Villanova

That I agree with.  THe Villanova-Georgetown call was one thing.  If Villanova didn't get in front of him, it wouldn't have been a foul call.  The Rutgers-Tennesee game makes me wonder how you could miss that call.  


Since: Feb 11, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:48 pm

The referees hate Villanova

Standing in the corridors of the Verizon Center following the game last night, I lamented with my fellow Georgetown fans that the abhorrent ending to this game was going to incite an endless barrage of ignorant derision from casual observers.  Sure enough, the folks on this message board have vindicated that judgment.

(1) To all the self-proclaimed experts: unlike Parrish et al., you don't get paid by CBS to generate more site traffic through your employ of gratuitously incendiary comments, so enough with the hyperbole and name-calling.  You don't prove your point by calling someone a moron, any more than you do repudiate their argument by describing the call as "indefensible."  You merely reveal yourself to be another marginally informed sports fan who goes apoplectic at the hint of a controversial decision.

(2) The officiating in that game was horrendous from start to finish, which Parrish & Co. would know had they watched more than a replay.  It's not only irresponsible journalistically, it's laughable from the perspective of a real fan to issue such self-assured and bombastic statements as did Parrish in this article in light of the fact that these comments were being made by someone who didn't even watch the game in its entirety. 

Pena fouled out with 5 minutes to go, but he easily could've fouled out in the first half if the refs hadn't given him numerous passes on his elbows/hip checks to Hibbert in the paint.  He couldn't get position on the big man, so he got away with the sort of contact that probably drew favorable reviews from the O-Line Coach at Villanova.  Nearly every time a Wildcat set a screen, he threw an elbow to the gut or grabbed a little jersey as a Hoya tried to get by.  Most of those were no-calls.  Early in the second half, Jonathan Wallace was being groped out on the perimeter, only to be called for an offensive foul the moment he moved his arms.  The call was so bad, even the Villanova fans seated near us laughed awkwardly.

To be sure, there were some poor calls that went the way of the Hoyas as well--I can think of one particular instance where Hibbert got away with an over-the-back on a rebounding play, and Pat Ewing, Jr. was lucky not to get tagged with a flagrant when he knocked a Wildcat to the floor for his 3rd personal.  That said, the preponderance of the effects of the poor officiating went in favor of Villanova. 

(3) Georgetown fans were not at all pleased, either with our team's performance, nor with the way the ending went down.  The Hoyas didn't execute their offensive schema well, only running 2 backdoor cuts the entire game.  They struggled to break a weak press, and they often settled for perimeter passing followed by a poorly-selected 3-point shot.  Their passing lacked crispness and accuracy (with some balls telegraphing out of bounds, and others bouncing at the feet of the intended recipient), and they once again failed to out-rebound a shorter team.  They've got a lot to improve upon if they want to return to the Final Four, and Georgetown fans know this.  Moreover, all of the comments following the game agreed that it would've been far better to win in OT than to win like that.

Bottom line?  The officials didn't "decide" or "steal" that game, although they may have ruined it.  But that was a whole-game effort, beginning with some pretty darned questionable traveling calls in the first few minutes, and the poor officiating certainly didn't tip the balance in favor of the Hoyas, if you watched the entire contest.  Not once mentioned in these posts is Villanova's field goal percentage (25%), their failure to convert a rebounding advantage into points, or their confounding refusal to press more aggressively against a Georgetown squad that had obvious difficulty making it across the timeline.

It was an ugly win, but it was a win.  Certainly not one to gloat over, though.

Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:21 pm

The referees hate Villanova

You are a moron to post something like this. A foul is physical contact that gives one player an advantage over another. What advantage what gained by that play, absolutely none. Wallace didn't go out of bounds, as someone earlier said. He didn't and couldn't have got a shot off(there was 00.1 seconds left after the whistle). Thirdly, a referee in any sport needs to use some judgement. That official had horrible judgement and absolutely stole that game from Villanova and handed it to GTown. What a terrible ending to a great game. You and that official should be suspended.

Since: Mar 12, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:17 pm

The referees hate Villanova

As a Gtown fan, I'll defend the call...but if I was a Nova fan, I'd be upset too.  I agree that I'd rather not see the "refs decide the game", but to say that all refs need to swallow their whistles in the last minute leaves the door open for assault and battery on the court.

I'd be happy with consistency in either making or not making calls at this point in the game.  For instance, at the end of the 1st OT in the Illinois-Indiana game last week, the Illini player who missed the free throws basically tackled DJ White with 3 seconds left in the open floor, but no call.  The Gtown game featured a much lighter foul that was called.

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