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The referees hate Villanova

Posted on: February 11, 2008 10:28 pm
Edited on: February 11, 2008 10:36 pm
AUSTIN, Texas -- I'm here at the Kansas-Texas game so I just saw a replay of the Villanova-Georgetown finish.

Holy moly!

They've been playing basketball for many decades.

So I suppose there have been worse calls in the sport.

But I can tell you I have never seen a worse call that decided a game, and nobody here in the media room could remember one either. I mean, how do you call that type of foul in a tie game 70-feet from the basket with less than a second remaining? It wasn't only bad, it was inexcusable to the point where the official who made the call should have to issue a public apology to Villanova and college basketball fans in general just like Illinois athletic director Ron Guenther had to apologize to Indiana last week.

And if you're keeping count, that's twice this season that Villanova has lost a game in the final second because of a questionable call (the other was against North Carolina State) and twice this season that Georgetown has won a game in the final second because of a questionable call or no-call (the other was against West Virginia).

In other words, referees clearly hate Jay Wright and love John Thompson III.

There is no other explanation.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Oct 9, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 9:33 am

The referees hate Villanova

He didn't get knocked out of bounds...the replays show as much. He stayed inbounds the entire play. Nothing should have been called, and out of bounds would not have been worse, because:

1. With 0.1 seconds left, Wallace was not going to get a shot's literally not possible.

2. With 0.1 seconds left, you can't get a shot off from an inbounds, either.

 It was incidental contact, the Villanova defender was trying to get out of the way. Instead of letting the game decide itself, the referees decided it for them. If that obvious foul at the end of Illinois/Indiana wasn't called last week, then this foul should definitely not have been called.

I'm not saying that the referees lost the game for Villanova. They have multiple chances in 39.9 minutes to win the ball game and could have made plays to not let in come down to the buzzer. They put themselves in that position scorewise, yes. But the referees still should have not decided it for them.

I guarantee you that if that wasn't called, no one would be talking about it this morning. We'd probably be talking about a great overtime finish of a Big East game.

Since: Dec 17, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 9:26 am

The referees hate Villanova

He never went out of bounds.  There was no impact on the game by that contact.

Since: Jan 13, 2008
Posted on: February 12, 2008 8:44 am

The referees hate Villanova

The only question is would he have made the same call with ten minutes left, if so then he should have called it then. Now  I am not sure he would have called it earlier, One last thing, make the refs available to one member of the media pool after each game.

Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 8:17 am

The referees hate Villanova

soooooo glad you brought up that rule, because if that was a foul on stokes than it was clearly an offensive foul on scottie before that, or a defensive foul on rivers... there was A TON more holding, pushing, charging into, impeding the progress of through extensions of forearms, legs and knees as well as bending of bodies into positions that are not normal yet no foul was called until Stokes ran alongside wallace and wallace who was out of control mind you, ran along side him, they brushed and wallace lost control.

soooo that is a reason for the refs to call a foul on stokes? i dont care if there was 0.1 seconds left or if they were 0.1 seconds into the game, ITS NOT A FOUL.

this and the rutgers tennessee games show that refs need some sort of oversight and disciplinary action for failing to make the right calls. as it stands these refs will prob cause nova or some other team a game or at least a shot at a win sometime in the very near future.

absolutely terrible

Since: Nov 4, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 8:09 am

no out of bounds

the GT player never , never went out of bounds. nice try

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 7:49 am

The referees hate Villanova

"Time and Score"?  No no no no no no no.

Call the game the same with 18:45 left in the first as with 00:00.1 left in the second.  Does it become less of a foul with a tie game and under one second left?  I mean, if you don't think it's a foul, that's your opinion, but to say that a referee should treat different parts of a game differently is absurd.  Should a baseball umpire call a runner safe in the ninth on a close play, but call him out in the third?  NO!

It was an excellent call by the official, and I, for one, am glad to see a referee with the GUTS to make a call like this.  Too often teams get away with murder in the final few seconds because refs want to "let the players decide it".  I'm all for letting the players decide it, but this player CHOSE to break the agreed upon rules (according to the rules:  A player shall not hold, push, charge into, impede the progress of an opponent by extending a hand, forearm, leg or knee or by bending the body into a position that is not normal.).  For the referees to allow this play to stand would be to allow a cheating player to decide the game.

Rules are rules, all the players agreed upon them.

Props to the ref.

Since: Dec 23, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:43 am

The referees hate Villanova

Gary.. Glad you still have the smile on your face. There was no reason for that call...The ref hoped time had run out....ooppppssss... he decided the game....

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 2:20 am

The referees hate Villanova

I would think that Tennessee call would be reviewable. Can't the referees call up the video replay to see if there was a clock malfunction, as there obviously was? Then if the foul came after the time ran out, there's no call and the game's over. Ridiculous, in both games.

Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: February 12, 2008 1:55 am

The referees hate Villanova

Wow!  To defend the call is incredible.  Even to say he was bumped.  In all honesty contact does happen in a game where people are playing on the same court or field.  It is inevitable. ...

For those that have played basketball with a coach probably have heard the term "time and score."  This goes for the refs as well, and the one that called the foul completely messed up. 

I said this on a Syracuse page once, when the refs call more than a foul a minute, something wrong is going on.  48 to be exact.  That is terrible.  and once the refs leave the court is over then they go to another arena and mess up there without studying film on the teams that they are supposed to be officiating.

Since: Feb 27, 2007
Posted on: February 12, 2008 1:36 am

The referees hate Villanova

1) He didn't get knocked out of bounds, from the replay I saw.

2) Even if he had, I'd like to see Nova do something inbounding the ball with 0.0 (or even 0.1) on the clock. That tends not to work.

Amazingly, it might not even be the worst call of the night - the women's game between Tennessee and Rutgers featured a foul call on Rutgers with 0.2 seconds left, putting Tennessee at the line for the tying and winning FTs. Just one problem - the clock stopped at 0.2 for about a full second, then started running again just as the whistle was blown, and the refs didn't notice this despite going to replay. At least in the Nova game, the contact occurred before the game should have been over.

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