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I like you Texas (but you blew it)

Posted on: March 1, 2008 10:08 pm
 

Texas cost itself the top ranking.

I feel like I should tell you that now.

I spent part of Saturday morning crunching numbers, looking at every bit of information available. I came to the conclusion that if Texas won at Texas Tech I'd move the Longhorns to No. 1 in Sunday night's Top 25 (and one) based mostly around the facts that they had won eight consecutive games and comprised a list of victims (Tennessee, UCLA and Kansas) that no other elite team can match.

And then guess what happened?

Texas lost.

To a Texas Tech team that spent Wednesday losing to Texas A&M by 44 points. And that's a Texas A&M team that spent Saturday losing by 27 points to Oklahoma. And that's an Oklahoma team that spent Wednesday losing by 18 points to Nebraska. And that's a Nebraska team that spent Saturday losing by 14 points to Oklahoma State. And that's an Oklahoma State team that has endured a six-game losing streak this season.

So yeah, things are now a mess.

Should I put North Carolina No. 1 even though its top win is against Clemson?

Or should I put Memphis No. 1 even though it just lost at home to Tennessee?

Or should I put Tennessee No. 1 even though it just lost at Vanderbilt?

Or should I put UCLA No. 1 if it wins at Arizona on Sunday?

At this point, I'm not sure.

I'll figure it out in the next 20 hours, I guess.

But I would've had Texas No. 1 if it won at Texas Tech on Saturday.

I feel like I should tell you that now.
Category: NCAAB
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Comments

Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2008 5:49 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

MR_G3

Lets compare Facts. On Monday, UNC will have ZERO wins agaisnt top 25 opponents. Memphis will have 3

score 3-1

UNC's RPI rating is 4 and the Memphis RPI rating is 2

UNC has 2 loses. Duke and Maryland. ....Duke a top 10 team. Maryland an unranked team.

Memphis has 1 lose to TENN who will more than likely remain in the top 5.

You can believe all you want who you think is better. However, within the rankings it is not justified to move North Carolina ahead of Memphis. No matter which way you wanna slice it.




Since: Feb 23, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2008 4:04 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

Well I am shocked that Texas lost this game, but Gary, your method of who loses to who is stupid imo. Every team will have a situation like that. Why are you singling Texas out? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.




Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2008 3:18 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

NORTH CAROLINA WILL HAVE A GRAND TOTAL OF....... NOT 1.......NO NO NO....NOT 2..........OH NOOOOO.........NOT 3.......BUT, A GRAND TOTAL OF

5???

WSU lost to Stanford earlier this week probably will drop out of the top 25, Vandy also lost this week to arkansas but the win over Tennessee will keep them in the top 25, but there are still three teams dropping out of the top 25, and UNC beat teams 26-28 a total of 5 times. UNC has also beat BYU who is currently #30. If UNC beats Florida State and wins Saturday's game then they are without a doubt the best team in the nation.

My top 5

1. UNC

2. Memphis

3. UCLA

4. Tennessee

5. Texas




Since: Sep 21, 2006
Posted on: March 2, 2008 3:10 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

But it is also an Oklahoma State team that has now counter-balanced its 6 game losing streak with a 5 game win streak, including winsover then #16 Texas A & M (road) and #4 Kansas. When O-State beats OU at home on Wednesday night, they will be 8-7 in conference and 17-12 overall. Surely a bubble team...



Since: Jan 23, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2008 3:07 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

Yes, it's silly.  Memphis, a very good team in a below-average conference, can go undefeated and rise to number 1.  That doesn't mean they are better than UCLA or Kansas, who lose a couple games because they play tougher opponents all year.  Memphis loses a game and drops 1 or 2 spots.  UCLA or UNC lose a game and fall 4 spots.  Teams are ranked based on how many "ranked" teams they lose to or defeat, and then rewarded or punished for what those opponents do three months down the road.  SILLY! 

The mid-majors are forced to make a name for themselves in pre-conference play.  No one knows how good (or bad) they really are until the tournament rolls around.  The power conferences get more initial respect; then conference season starts and they beat each other up and fall down in the polls.

THE POLLS ARE ABOUT PERCEPTION AND RECORDS, NOT ABOUT WHO IS REALLY BEST.  The tournament at least attempts to prove who is best, and I think it's unfortunate that the polls have such influence on how the tournament is set up.  Yes, the polls are silly and flawed.   I know it's the system we have, but that doesn't mean it's good.




Since: Feb 25, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2008 2:49 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

I think we got the point. But, I do agree with you, halo.

And Mr_G3, the Top 25 is silly you say? It might not always get everything exactly how it "should" according to various people's opinions, but it gets pretty darn close. Not to mention that teams in the Top 25 make it into the tourney. If it really was so silly, why would you spend time complaining about it?



Since: Jan 23, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2008 2:48 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

Look at strength of schedule; Carolina's is very good.  It would have been better had Louisville not lost early in the year, leaving BYU in the Las Vegas tournament.  But, BYU was better than Louisville then (maybe still...who knows?).  Carolina CAN'T CONTROL what happens to their opponents before or after they play them, and again, the polls are silly.  Texas has several good wins against highly-ranked teams.  Texas also has some bad losses.  Ditto Kansas, UCLA, Duke, etc.  It doesn't mean much.  Any thinking observer of this season in college basketball can see UNC, Kansas, Texas, UCLA, Memphis, Tennessee, Duke, Georgetown, Stanford, etc., are ALL GOOD TEAMS.  They have all beaten unranked teams that are as good as, or better than, the teams ranked from 10-25 in the polls.

I don't care who is number 1 come Monday.  But UNC is as deserving as anyone else, and as capable as any team in America of winning the title this year.  And to throw more fuel on the fire, who wants to play Maryland or Duke in the first round?  Maryland might not make the tournament, but they're easily one of the 64 best teams in America this year, with the tools to beat any opponent.  Duke is Duke.




Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2008 2:46 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

Just want to bring up the fact that even when Kent. St. moves out of the top 25, UNC has beat the teams that got 26, 27, and 28 in the AP poll last week (Miami(Fla), Davidson, Clemson) and they've beat Miami and Clemson twice each. St. Mary's will also move out of the top 25 after their loss to Gonzaga. So at least one of those three teams will move into the top 25.




Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2008 2:33 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

ZERO




Since: Oct 16, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2008 2:31 pm
 

I like you Texas (but you blew it)

MR_G3

Carolina has played some unranked teams that are BETTER THAN the teams on that silly top-25 list.

LOL....this is your argument to defend the fact that as of Monday......NORTH CAROLINA WILL HAVE A GRAND TOTAL OF....... NOT 1.......NO NO NO....NOT 2..........OH NOOOOO.........NOT 3.......BUT, A GRAND TOTAL OF ZERO............1 2 3 4 ZEROOOOOOOO.........54321 ZEROOOOOOO ......wins against a ranked opponent.......that would be the total of zero .......zero minus zero.... =  zero.........this is who everyone is saying that WITHOUT A DOUBT.....should be ranked the #1 team in the country........a team with.....YOU GUESSED IT.........ZERO TOP 25 WINS........ZERO.......we are in MARCH..and they HAVE ZERO.....wins....against top 25 opponents LOL


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