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What to do with Villanova?

Posted on: March 13, 2008 3:55 pm
Edited on: March 13, 2008 4:04 pm
 

Villanova will be a tough call.

That's the best I can tell you right now.

I'll assess the situation at the end of the night, try to make sense of it then. But for now, here are the relevant numbers after Thursday's 82-63 loss to Georgetown ...

-- Villanova --

Record:
20-12
RPI: 51
Strength of schedule: 41
Record against Top 25: 2-6
Record against Top 50: 3-6
Record against Top 100: 7-9
Losses outside the Top 100: 3
Impressive victories: Connecticut, Pittsburgh, West Virginia
Embarrassing losses: at Cincinnati, at DePaul, at Rutgers
Record in last 12 games: 7-5

How does that stack up?

Honestly, it's difficult to say.

But is Villanova's body of work any worse than New Mexico's body of work?

I only ask because the Lobos are in everybody's field.

Here are their credentials ...
 
-- New Mexico --

Record: 24-7
RPI: 54
Strength of schedule: 151
Record against Top 25: 0-2
Record against Top 50: 1-4
Record against Top 100: 4-5
Losses outside the Top 100: 2
Impressive victories: UNLV
Embarrassing losses: at New Mexico State, at TCU
Record in last 12 games: 9-3

Like I said, Villanova will be a tough call.
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Comments

Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: March 18, 2008 6:01 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

 I predicted correctly!!!  They might be the last one in, but that's better than the last one out!

 

Go St. Joe's, Temple and Villanova!!!!  Go and give your all!!!!




Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: March 15, 2008 8:31 am
 

What to do with Villanova?

Villanova should get in.  They played in one of the toughest conferences with Georgetown and Marquette (just to name a few). And their SOS and RPI are up there and have won 2 games to Top 25 teams. How many does New Mexico have? Yep, a whopping ZERO.




Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: March 15, 2008 1:56 am
 

What to do with Villanova?

Oops. Forgot to check my own stats sheet. The Lobos did lose in the Pan Am Center. And, the NMSU Aggies they lost to lost early road games against Texas, Duke, Louisville, Ohio and UNM and a home game to WVU. However, since Herb Pope joined the squad, the NMSU Aggies are 15-4, with three losses on the road in conference play. One win away from the WAC automatic bid to the dance, they are a team to reckon with. Since when does that qualify UNM as having had a bad loss? It seems to me it would put the Lobos in the same league as Texas, Duke, Louisville, Ohio and WVU. BTW, until league play began, NMSU's SOS was like 26 in the nation. Now it sits at 121.



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: March 15, 2008 1:03 am
 

What to do with Villanova?

Good call on WCC vs WAC



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: March 15, 2008 12:58 am
 

What to do with Villanova?

Uh, the Lobos won at NMSU. But since my Aggies are going to the dance, it wouldn't have been an embarrasing loss had it happened. - Big truck



Since: Feb 9, 2008
Posted on: March 14, 2008 7:57 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

Put Nova in. Ask yourself this question. If I had to play Nova or the Lobos, which do I think I would have the best chance of defeating? The answer has to be the Lobos, so Nova would be the better tournament team.

 




Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: March 14, 2008 2:33 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

Thanks Curtis, I appreciate the dilligence you showed in breaking down the numbers. The only thing is, your first paragraph is incorrect because I took the top 7 from each conference, based on RPI, which means I actually gave some conferences better teams to work with than their conference records would indicate. So this comparison does compare the top 7 from the Big 12 and the Beast, with the Beast coming out on top

Great objective analysis Curtis, I don't really know which conference is better. I think we can all agree that the PAC-10, Big East, Big 12 and ACC are the class of the country this season, with the SEC not far behind. They're all great conferences with their own great teams, and each one has a legitimate shot to put 1 or more teams in the Final Four.

The parity amongst the big boys this year is so exciting, this tournament is going to be spectacular!!!




Since: Feb 11, 2007
Posted on: March 14, 2008 1:38 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

MWC vs A-10 (or MVC)

WCC vs WAC

The funny thing is, the A-10 (obvious geographical disparity notwithstanding) actually lines up much better with the WCC in terms of constituent schools.  Aside from the Big East and WCC, the majority of Division I Catholic colleges are located in the Atlantic 10.  St. Joe's, La Salle, Dayton, Xavier, et al would be (to my mind) a more logical rivalry with the likes of fellow urban, small-to-mid-sized Catholic schools Gonzaga, Santa Clara, San Diego, etc. 

*Shrug*  Fun to traffic in conjecture, since it ain't gonna happen.




Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: March 14, 2008 1:30 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

Smitty

Taking an equal number from each conference favors the larger conference. If BIG-10 and BIG-12 were combined, their top 7 would probably be better than the top 7 from the Beast.

Even so, I'm a data junkie.

For each category, I ranked each conference for the place it scored. If there was a tie, like PAC-10 and ACC both came in third on RPI, I gave them both a 3 and the next, SEC, got 5 for RPI. This didn't consider how much better any conference might be in a category, just which was better.

  1. Beast     14
  2. Big 12    20
  3. ACC     &n
    bsp; 23
  4. PAC 10  24
  5. SEC     &n
    bsp; 26
  6. Big 10    33

So there are the real objective numbers. And this analysis courtesy of a PAC 10 fan.




Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: March 14, 2008 12:29 pm
 

What to do with Villanova?

MWC vs A-10 (or MVC)

WCC vs WAC



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