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Is the arm considered part of the ball?

Posted on: March 23, 2008 4:41 am
 

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- Donald Sloan is the Texas A&M player who took the last shot against UCLA.

Some people believe he was fouled on the play.

And pictures seem to back that opinion.

But I'll let you be the judge.

Click this link and look.

Discuss below.
Category: NCAAB
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Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2008 5:16 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

They should just mold a 2nd trophy to hand to UCLA, and let them play from their couch. UCLA doesn't even need to show up to the dance, they refs can just play for them.




Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: March 23, 2008 2:44 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

What about when Collison was tackled and the foul was called on him or the horrible call on Westbrook on the ball scramble with 2 mins left that gave A&M a chance to take the lead? A&M got most of the calls this game...they have absolutely nothing to complain about. Next time maybe they should try to not blow a 10 point lead.

How about giving UCLA a little credit? They had to make the shots to win it.



Since: Nov 19, 2006
Posted on: March 23, 2008 2:02 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

Which one of UCLA's fouls are we talking about?  Sometimes the hand is part of the ball, but not the arm below the elbows with arms extended.  Brutal ref job for that Bruin robbery.



Since: Jan 23, 2008
Posted on: March 23, 2008 1:50 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

That's an easy foul call, except for determining which Bruin to call.  However, it was no more obvious than the other four or five "missed" calls when A & M had layups or dunks taken away by UCLA "blocks."  This game should never have been in question down the stretch, and wouldn't have been if the officials would have remembered there are rules to govern contact.  Apparently, they were more impressed by the pro-UCLA crowd than by something as inconsequential as a rule book.

Show those photos to every NCAA official.  Any who defend it by saying the "arm is considered part of the ball" need to be fired immediately.  There is NO EXCUSE for them to let that call go.




Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: March 23, 2008 1:44 pm
 

It doesn't matter UCLA still wins if they call it

The A&M player was a 67% FT shooter, UCLA had a final shot, and even if it made it to OT UCLA still almost certainly wins. I'd say the Bruins win at least 95% of the time if they call the foul.



Since: Sep 24, 2006
Posted on: March 23, 2008 1:42 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

A&M was getting beaten up in the paint towards the end of the game. That would account for your 5 points in 10 minutes. If you don't call fouls, then that's just letting the Bruins know that they weren't going to get called for being pretty damn physical.

I wonder if they were TRYING to foul Sloan at the end of the game. I mean, there is no question that it wasn't a a clean block.




Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2008 1:11 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

When I watched it live, I thought it may have been a foul...when I watched it in slow motion, I definitely thought it was a foul. I thought it was funny when UCLA coach Holland made it a point to say how fortunate the Bruins were that they defended getting all ball on that last play...



Since: Jan 12, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2008 12:47 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

I'm certain if the referees had these still photos to look at they would probably determine that the guy had been fouled, however fouls don't get called at the point of the game where the play happened. AtM played there hearts out and put themselves in position to steal the game, had a big lead in the second half but let it get away enough said.



Since: Mar 1, 2008
Posted on: March 23, 2008 12:41 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

Yes, that is absolutly a foul



Since: Oct 26, 2006
Posted on: March 23, 2008 12:22 pm
 

Is the arm considered part of the ball?

Even if he makes both free throws they still have to defend a final UCLA shot and win in OT, which doesn't seem likely given the last 10 minutes of the game...


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