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Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Posted on: March 23, 2008 8:25 pm

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- Sunday was tame, relatively speaking.

Just one of the eight games played resulted in an upset.

And I bet you can guess which team got upset.

Anyway, the Sweet 16 is now set.

Here's how it looks by league.

Pac-10: Three representatives (UCLA, Stanford, Washington State)
Big East:  Three representatives (Louisville, West Virginia, Villanova)
Big 12: Two representatives (Kansas, Texas)
Big Ten: Two representatives (Wisconsin, Michigan State)
SEC: One representative (Tennessee)
ACC: One representative (North Carolina)
C-USA: One representative (Memphis)
A-10: One representative (Xavier)
Southern: One representative (Davidson)
Sun Belt: One representative (Western Kentucky)
Category: NCAAB

Since: Feb 11, 2008
Posted on: March 24, 2008 11:37 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

According to CBS, UCLA's RPI is #4 in the nation, not 16.

Since: Apr 11, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 11:16 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

"UCLA has been tested like no other team"

Except for Tennessee

The Vols also faced 5 of the Sweet 16 teams (Memphis, Texas, Western KY, Xavier, and West Virginia) and beat 4 of them on their home court or at a neutral site.  They played the toughest schedule in the country despite the fact that the SEC was relatively weak this year and the #1 RPI proves it.  UCLA's RPI meanwhile is #16 and with the easiest route to the FInal Four (Western KY and Xavier/West VA) it might not matter until they play Memphis or Texas.  If they survive that Tennessee will be waiting in the championship game as the most battle tested team in recent memory after have gone through terribly overseeded as a 7 seed Butler,3 seed Louisville, 1 seed North Carolina, and 1 seed Kansas. Will be a great game and Tennessee will win and complete the toughest championship run ever. 

Since: Jan 19, 2008
Posted on: March 24, 2008 4:27 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Davidson looks really scary.  Villanova and W. Kentucky did a good job this year.  I think the overall majority of conferences are represented because of the calibur of basketball being played.  Top quality all the way around and some overtime games to BOOT!

Since: Jun 7, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 4:21 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

First off, using the small sample size of the tournament to make your argument is not wise, but since everyone else is doing so, I'll chime in.

I'm an A-10 fan, so I have no bias in saying that the Big East probably serves up the best argument as "best conference". The fact that West Virginia and Villanova, in the bottom half of the 8 Big East teams in the tournament (and possibly the 7th and 8th teams), survived to the Sweet 16 should be more of a comment on the strength of the conference than losses from Georgetown and Notre Dame speak for its weakness.

On the other side, the elite Pac-10 teams are those that advanced... the bottom 3 of their tournament teams all bowed out in the first round. That speaks to me of what others say about the top-heaviness of the ACC and Big Ten. If we stick strictly by seedings, Villanova and West Virginia advanced with 3 upsets, while all 3 Pac-10 teams played to their seed.

Finally, to compare conferences, you have to consider all the teams in it, not just the upper and middle tiers... and you'd be hard-pressed to find a worse single team in the power conferences than Oregon State. Combined with the balanced conference scheduling used by the Pac-10, that equates to "gimme" wins for each Pac-10 team.

Since: Nov 30, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 2:48 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

I agree with 95% of that.

The Pac-10 is better than most people want to give it credit for, but not yet the premier conference nationwide.

The truth is that there may not be a premier conference in Men's College Basketball. Just a handful of great ones.

As far as the Pac-10 goes, they have proved their mettle thus far. Oregon and Arizona were both lower seeds and U$C or USC ran into a tough match-up in Michael Beasley and Kansas State. I expect both Stanford and Washington State will have trouble advancing to the Elite 8 ... but is that really an indictment on the Pac-10? Stanford will go to Houston, Texas to play an extremely tough Longhorns squad and Washington State will have their hands full with seemingly unbeatable North Carolina ... yes, in Charlotte, North Carolina.

It's fun getting to see which conference will get bragging rights, but this tournament isn't about that. It's about the players, the individual match-ups, and intense competition. And fun. And the last two minutes, buzzer beaters, and Billy Packer's shiny head. I hope the media will alter its focus towards the games played and cease making the dance into a cross-regional pissing contest.

But as long as it is, it looks as though the Pac-10's fortunes will once again hang on the success of UCLA in their third consecutive Final Four.

Since: Dec 30, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 2:35 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Teams that won but should have gone down-  UCLA sqeeked by on another late basket, Memphis held on against Mississippi St, Stanford got lucky against Marquette,  Tennessee was sloppy vs Butler.  Texas forgot that the game was 40 minutes.

How can you say Memphis won but should have gone down. It's not like they were behind and got lucky, or got some benefit from the referees. They led the majority of the game including the last ten minutes and were up by 12 with 2 minutes left. The fact is, if they could hit a free throw they should have won by more. The score was much closer than it should have been, but should have gone down? I don't think so.

Memphis will be lucky to escape their region if they continue to shoot poorly and play like an AAU team. 

An AAU team? Memphis has played the same style for the last three years. I know they don't play in a tough conference, but they do play a tough OOC schedule and they are 101-9 over the last three years playing what you think is an AAU style of basketball. I will agree with you on one point, if they don't start shooting free throws better it will probably bite them in the end.

Texas should have a huge crowd in Houston (yes Memphis, you will accually face a hostile crowd against a tough school)


This is my biggest problem with the seeding. Carolina gets to stay in Carolina with a home crowd, UCLA gets to stay in Cal., Kansas goes to Detroit where no team gets an advantage, while Memphis gets shipped to Texas to face Texas. The tourney is supposed to be played on neutral floors, or the one seeds are supposed to get the advantage if their is one to be had, yet the NCAA put Memphis, yet again, in a hostile enviroment while the others have a quasi-home court advantage or neutral court. Your statement leads me to believe that you feel they deserve the disadvantage. 

Carolina may have a tough road but they are playing in Carolina. UCLA probably still has the easiest road like they did when the tourney started. Kansas and Memphis have the toughest road as far as one seeds.

Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 2:21 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

The Big Ten is down this year, that's all I have heard since day one. I won't argue, the fact of the matter is that the middle of the pack Big Ten Teams are subpar when compared to the middle of some of the other power conferences. What I have despised all year though is that teams like Wisconsin, MSU, and Indiana (pre Sampson drama) were given little to no respect all year. Just because the middle of a conference is down does not mean that the upper echelon teams are any less competitive, the Sweet 16 shows this. The ACC only got four bids and only have one team left, why was UNC so heralded during a down year and teams like Wisconsin still have to struggle for just a hair of respect?

I am not trying to say that the Big Ten was underrated, I'm just trying to figure out what the middle of what OSU and Illinois have to do with Wisconsin? Overrated ACC teams had zero impact on UNC.

Since: Feb 11, 2008
Posted on: March 24, 2008 1:49 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Against the teams in the Sweet 16 this year, UCLA has faced 5 of them (Stanford, Washington St, Texas, Davidson, Michigan St) and are (7-1) against the teams left in the NCAA tourney! No one else has the record against the remaining teams! UCLA has been tested like no other team and that is why they have a great chance to win it all.

 I think this week proved that the PAC 10 is among the top conferences. 30% of the PAC 10 is in the Sweet 16 (WSU, Stanford and UCLA). The only other conference that comes close is the Big East with 3 teams {WVU, Louisville, Nova) in the Sweet 16 (18% of its conference in the sweet 16).
ACC = 1 Sweet 16 team (haha)

Pac 10 was the best conference this year and after the 1st weekend, the PAC 10 proved its supremacy!

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: March 24, 2008 12:24 pm

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Does this mean that the Pac-10 is best conference? It sounds ridiculous, especially with the game being played in Charlotte, but, I fully expect Washington State to control tempo against UNC, force them into tough shots late in the shot clock, keep them off the offensive boards and make it close with less than five minutes left to play.

UCLA is extremely fortunate to advance. They do have a nice match up with Western Kentucky on Thursday. The Hilltoppers are playing good basketball and have an extemely athletic backcourt, but don't have the size up front to keep the Bruins off the glass. Collison and Westbrook will more than hold their own against Courtney Lee and Co. - sidebar: Don't expect Josh Shipp to go scoreless or Luc Richard Mbah a Moute to score only two points and have eight turnovers either.

Stanford has the difficult task of trying to contain Texas and their explosive offense. If the referees allow the Cardinal to get physical, I don't think Texas can keep the Lopez Twins off the boards - Stanford gets to the free throw line a bunch, controls tempo and keeps it real close. Stanford is a difficult match up because their guards don't turn it over much and they will hit some threes.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Stanford and UCLA advance to the Elite Eight.

Since: Nov 21, 2007
Posted on: March 24, 2008 11:37 am

Ten leagues have Sweet 16 representatives

Do NOT fall into the trap of the media and think the Big 10 doesn't stand a chance of having 2 teams in the elite 8.  UW (Flowers in particular) will shut down Stephan Curry, and Mich. St. has a great chance of knocking off Memphis.  I see MSU fouling, fouling, fouling, Memphis into submission.

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