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Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

Posted on: January 7, 2009 6:19 pm
Edited on: January 7, 2009 6:58 pm

What are the Cleveland Browns doing?

Eric Mangini?

He wasn't successful in his three seasons with the New York Jets. Even his good buddy, general manager Mike Tannenbaum, sent him packing because he felt the team needed a change. Or at least he was forced to relieve him of his job and yet the Browns gave him a four-year deal to be their coach Wednesday.

I just think Mangini is too soft of a presence. He plays the tough guy, but he isn't. Does that chubby face look imposing. I don't think he has what it takes to be a successful head coach.

Not only that, the players hated him in New York. Word is his coaches didn't like him.

That's a bad combination: A tough-guy wannabe who isn't well liked. Bill Belichick, the man Mangini copied, has a presence. His players fear him. Bill Parcells' players feared him. Jimmy Johnson's players feared him.

Would you fear Mangini?

There are too many good candidates out there. I think Randy Lerner was snowed by the idea he will be getting another Belichick.

He isn't.

The Browns made a mistake.

Quick hits

  • The Dallas Cowboys landed a heck of a special-team coach in Joe DeCamillis, whose contract expired in Jacksonville. DeCamillis is regarded as one of the top special-teams coaches in the league. There was some friction between DeCamillis and coach Jack Del Rio that helped lead to his departure.
  • It shouldn't come as a shock that Greg Knapp is joining Jim Mora's staff in Seattle. Knapp was the offensive coordinator in Atlanta when Mora was the head coach. Knapp has to be thrilled he doesn't have to deal with a run-around quarterback like Mike Vick. Mora was too loyal to Vick and always defended him, and that was part of his undoing.
  • Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford will enter the NFL Draft as a junior, and he will be a top-10 pick. I used to think Stafford would be the top pick -- he topped my initial draft list -- but I like Oklahoma's Sam Bradford a little more now. I think he's more accurate. But Stafford did the right thing coming out.
  • The Saints confirmed Reggie Bush had micro-fracture surgery on his left knee. That could be trouble for next season, although the Saints don't think it will be. If it is, they have nobody to blame but themselves. That injury occurred at the end of the first half of the team's first game with Carolina in Charlotte. The Saints had Bush field a punt with no time left in the half, rather than having him call a fair catch and try a free kick. There's no way Bush should have returned that punt.
Category: NFL
Tags: Eric Mangini

Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: January 8, 2009 10:38 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

He wasn't successful in his three seasons with the New York .I'm not a fan of the Jets or the Browns but the above statement isn't true.  Mangini was 10-6, 4-12 and 9-7.  I wouldn't call that dominating but to label all 3 seasons as unsuccessful is false.

Since: Dec 7, 2008
Posted on: January 8, 2009 10:38 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

I feel you man... I mean yea we all knew Romeo was getting fired... got it. But No offensive TD's down the stretch has alot to do with the injuries at QB. I thought it was pretty premature to think the Browns were a shoein for the division crown this year, and when Anderson started struggling, and Baltimore was kicking ass, any idiot could tell that it wasnt going to go as planned. But Ken Dorsey? Are you kidding me? Come on now, dont blame the franchise or the coach for that. Fire Cronell? yea of course. But to think that Mangini is a horrible choice is foolish. Lets not forget that this team was 10-6 and still establishing itself a year a go. And Mangini may have been a part of what the Jets screwed up late in the season, but he wont do anything but help the Browns next year. He is a hungry coach that excells when put in the right place. And who is a better canidate? I mean he made the playoffs with Pennington and beat the Pats even. It is rude to say that he was a bad coach in NY. Anyone who thinks so should really look at it harder. And stop being so media oriented.

Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2009 7:27 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

I think the only person who does not get it is you.  Bill Cowher is not going to Cleveland.  Whether you believe it or not, Bill Cowher is fiercely loyal to Dan Rooney and has made it clear to friends and associates that taking the job in Cleveland is not an option for that reason alone.  Furthermore, why the hell would he want to coach in Cleveland?  Money?  He can get money taking jobs of his choice IF he decides that he wants to leave CBS to get back on the field next year.  Finally, if all the other factors I just mentioned were not true, why Cleveland?  Due to the fact that outside of Detroit, it is the dumpster fire of the NFL?  Its abundance of "talent?"

This organization dropped the ball again.  Just like giving away a 1st rounder to draft hometown hero and "franchise QB" Brady Quinn, only to give Derek Anderson a multi-million dollar extension the very same year.   Or who can forget the loyalty you have shown to one of the all-time jerks in NFL history, Kellen Winslow Jr.   They blow the 5th overall pick on a immature, egotisical TE and now, after all the crap he put the team through, he wants out.  Oh, same with Braylon Edwards. 

So the cure-all is Eric Mangini.  You have got to be kidding me?!  Since he has not been able to cheat on a regular basis (until he left and told on his former team) what has he done?  Get fired for being a bad coach and by all accounts, a lousy person?  Leave it to the Browns to reward the guy.  I mean Bill Belicheats "coaching tree" has really set the world on fire.  Did you not notice how the guy you just fired, Romeo Crennel panned out?  Good news though, Mangini want to RETAIN Crennel, lord almighty. 

As a Steeler fan, I just have to laugh.  Cowher?  Yeah, ok.  Good luck with Mangini, that should work out great...for everybody else.  Even the Bengals rejoice.  Cleveland, you need to fire your owner.

Since: Mar 10, 2007
Posted on: January 8, 2009 7:12 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

Thank you !!!!!! Thats the smartest thing Prisco has sais in years, the Browns stock just fell even more!!!

Since: Jan 6, 2009
Posted on: January 8, 2009 6:59 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

Being a lifetime Bengals fan..... I feel your pain! LOL!  I think this move was made as a symbol to everyone that if the team doesn't do well, they will fire someone to show they are trying to get this team on the upswing. I think the Browns (God forbid), have alot of talent as they showed in 07. They had WAY too many injuries this year. That was their downfall. It wasn't their coach! I think they got another coach from the same system because they don't necessarily want to make wholesale changes. The philosophy works. They just need to keep key players healthy.

  I  personally would not hand the reigns over to Quinn. I think he will be a bust. That's just my opinion. I hate Notre Dame and it's players with a passion! I can't ever see myself, or anyone for that matter, rooting for a team that has a red-headed fairy for a mascot!!!! Plus... they SUCK!!! LOL!!!

  Keep your heads up Browns fans.I think you will be in the playoffs next year or the year after. Can't say that for my Bengals.

Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2009 6:58 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

Uh, Helll-lllo?  Cowher will NEVER take the coaching job in Cleveland.  They would stand a better chance of getting Jimmy Johnson out of exile. 

Since: Jan 27, 2008
Posted on: January 8, 2009 6:42 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

as we always say in cleveland," wait till next year" so with a new coach,let's see what is in store for 2009,who knows what mangini can do to turn the browns around,so give the guy a chance,with the right coaches,and front office,"wait till next year"!

Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2009 5:56 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

Well thats exactly the tpye of defense Crennel ran, except the Browns, despite a Pro Bowl nose tackle, were awful against the run.  Mangini had the Jets in the top 10 in the NFL against the run.  So it's a step up.

Terrible fire by the Jets.

Since: Jan 8, 2009
Posted on: January 8, 2009 5:52 pm

Prisco Rants: What are the Browns thinking?

mangini's undoing was the ageless(cough) brett favre. as for the players and staff not liking him, a rookie mistake by a first time head coach. mangini will know better this time around: respect is earned not forced. the cleveland team could use someone a little more disciplanary and not afraid to make some big changes. besides, what would the would be like if the browns just stopped sucking? that'd be wierd........

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: January 8, 2009 5:40 pm

And we know the media really knows coaches...

Mangini had winning seasons in 2 or his 3 seasons in NY. He has similar ideals and systems, which allows to utilize the talent that is already on the roster and he has head coaching experience.  Cowher didn't want to come back to coaching, so who else would you suggest? Bring Marty back at retirement age? Bring in Shanahan, who has never put together a defense in Denver and only won those Super Bowls because of Elway and awesome running game? You can't win the AFC North if you can't play defense. Try the promoting a coordinator thing again? Oh, or maybe bring up another college coach...we've seen how well that works in the NFL.

The Browns did the best they could do by bringing in Mangini. A second chance and a change of scenary will do Mangini very well. There is more talent on the Browns roster than there ever has been on the Jets in the same time. At least he has a franchise QB to work with in Cleveland with Brady Quinn, unlike getting stuck with the ever-injured Pennington for 2 years and a 40-something Farve with 'diminishing skills' that should have hung it up a couple years ago. Then, take a look at how many coaches that have won Super Bowls over the past decade and see how many of them did it on their second team after being let go.

-Tom Coughlin, fired by Jacksonville
-Tony Dungy, let go by Tampa
-Bill Belichick, 3 Super Bowls, fired by Cleveland
-John Gruden, fired by Oakland
-Dick Vermeil, fired by Philidelphia

That's 7 of the last 10 Super Bowls that have been won by a Head Coach that had been fired as a head coach from another team before winnning the big one.

And it was the media that was raving about what a great hire Romeo Crennel would be for the Browns a few years ago...we can see how well that worked out and how much the word of the media needs to be taken with a big grain of salt...

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