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Gruden gone

Posted on: January 16, 2009 6:53 pm
Edited on: January 16, 2009 11:14 pm

Jon Gruden never understood that it's the quarterbacks that drive NFL teams

And it cost him his job.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers fired Gruden Friday in what some might see as a shocking move. It really isn't. Gruden's team flubbed a playoff chance down the stretch and he would have been entering a win-or-else season in 2009.

And he was planning on playing again next season with one of his quarterback re-treads. Would it have been Jeff Garcia? Brian Griese? Who?

Gruden was arrogant enough as a coach to think his schemes could overcome the lack of a quality quarterback. In 2003, the Bucs won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson at quarterback.

That led to Gruden believing he could win with anybody there. The reality is that it took an amazing defense to win that season.

It wasn't Johnson.

It couldn't be. He was nothing more than a caretaker.

Those caretaker-win-Super Bowl stories come along once in a while. For every Johnson or Trent Dilfer, I can give you a long list of Hall of Fame passers who have won Super Bowls.

The timing of the Gruden firing leads me to believe the Bucs are up to something big. I doubt they would fire a coach at this stage of the game without having a plan. With general manager Bruce Allen also getting fired, it leads me to believe they are targeting a big-name coach they will pay a ton of money to have personnel control.

Maybe Mike Shanahan? Maybe Urban Meyer? Maybe Bob Stoops? Maybe Pete Carroll?

If I were Meyer and the Bucs came to me an offered me $8-million a season and total control, how could I turn that down? What's left to challenge me on the college level? Of course, I'd have to change my offensive system.

I'm telling you. There's something at work in Tampa. Something big.

No matter the hire, that person better take a lesson from Gruden's tenure there. You can't win consistently with scrap-heap quarterbacks.


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Since: Mar 17, 2007
Posted on: January 17, 2009 12:30 pm

Gruden gone

If I was Urban Meyer, I honestly would not want to take any of the jobs available, none of the jobs left available has a franchise quarterback in place, he has a nice job at Florida and the chance to win another national title. Great college coaches don't always translate into successful NFL coaches, for every Jimmy Johnson there's a Steve Spurrier so unless a great job opened up I couldn't see him being interested.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: January 17, 2009 11:41 am

I called this while watching the Oakland Loss!

I think Gruden will land somewhere quick, maybe New York, St. Louis, or in a crazy twist of fate maybe Oakland. I wish Tampa had something big planned though Pete, it would have made a bigger story. Instead we find out today they hired D-Coordinator Morris to the Head Coach spot. I think after Miami and Atlanta got crushed playing the hot college coach carousel, there just aren't many teams willing to take that risk again.

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: January 17, 2009 7:45 am

Gruden gone

Not totally wrong but I don't know why people continue to dump on Garcia. He is the reason they almost made the playoffs. He does not deserve to be compared to Johnson and Dilfer.

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: January 17, 2009 5:23 am
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Since: Oct 22, 2006
Posted on: January 17, 2009 3:10 am

Gruden gone

Well it looks like the team that is hiring new blood in the NFL are the winners.

except Washington !  But not bad.  Zorn will be a great coach. Out with the coaches with old

game plans. In with the freash plays that will move the ball. But, don't forget big d (no not Dallas)

defense. Looking at Alanta, Baltimore, maybe Tampa just needs new blood and don't worry about

Gruden , He can go to Hollywood and be chuckies secound string.


Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:26 pm

Gruden gone

What's with everyone spewing conspiracy theories referencing "how long it took"? It's January 16th, for (St.) Pete's sake, not March 16th. It's still more than three months until the draft. It's still two days until we know the *finalists* for the NFL championship. Waiting a whopping 19 days to make a change doesn't make the Bucs idiots, nor does it mean they have a blockbuster candidate lined up.

So the Bucs didn't escort Chuckie off the field as time expired like so many marketing-driven teams did. You think maybe the firing of Gruden AND the GM says something? It seems pretty likely to me that the ownership decided they wanted major upheaval, and the GM didn't see things that way, so they decided they needed a GM who saw things their way (or more likely the GM took the firing over quitting to save himself a few million dollars).

These aren't the kind of conversations that you have in two hours after the last game before telling the PR department to get to work for a Monday morning release before going to bed.

Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:20 pm

Gruden gone

Prisco's hunch was dead wrong. Multiple sources reporting that the Bucs will name Raheem Morris the new head coach as early as tomorrow.

Since: Jul 10, 2008
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:15 pm

Gruden gone

Garcia is a mediocre QB who has a losing record in San Fran, Cleveland, and Detroit. He had a 14-12 record with Tampa, 6-3 record with Philly, 5-11 record with Detroit, 3-10 with Cleveland and 40-43 record with San Fran, counting playoffs. How is a 68-79 career record as a starter a good QB? He misses open recievers downfield, either because he doesnt have the arm to get it there or he doesnt look for them, and he gets happy feet and will run into sacks when his guys have good protection and he runs into a D-linemans grasp scrambling when he doesnt have to? Good riddance to him and lets find someone who can actually play.

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 11:09 pm

Gruden gone, replaced by Urban Meyer ?

What ? R U a NUT ? What this would turn into is exactly what we saw either with Steve Spurrier, Nick Saban/Bobby Petrino or even in the NBA when Billy Donovan flip flopped on leaving UF. Meyer's system doesn't work at the NFL level, he couldn't have enough body bags on the sideline. So can he coach even as well as Spurrier on a professional football level ? Spurrier at least won with the Tampa Bay Bandits of the USFL. I think Meyer could have some success with the right cast of stars, but would it be as wonderful as what he has @ UF and in college football ?

How long does Meyer last, is he a candidate for being fired after a season or two of 1-15 football like Cam Cameron ? Or will he leave Tampa Bay like Saban or Petrino after realizing there is a safer paycheck back in college football ?

And the last scenario, Meyer pulls a Donovan, he agrees and then waffles on the job offer, never actually leaving UF and getting a raise in spite of budget cuts for the University ?

Meyer needs to stay with UF, so he and Donovan can be Bowden and Dean Smith-like figures for those UF Gator Nation sports programs. With what each gets paid, the security of the UF jobs, heck UF is facing $ 75 million in scholastic cuts, I doubt any of it comes out of Meyer's or Donovan's programs ?


I don't doubt Meyer couldn't be successful, but would it happen as the Tampa Bay team is starting to show it's age, plunge after the busts of the drafts since their Super Bowl season ?

Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: January 16, 2009 10:49 pm

Gruden gone, replaced by Urban Meyer ?

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