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Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

Posted on: February 5, 2009 8:09 pm
Edited on: February 5, 2009 8:10 pm
 

 

The New England Patriots did the wise thing Thursday by placing the franchise tag on quarterback Matt Cassel.

It's not likely a move made to keep him, but rather give the team a chance to make a trade for Cassel.

Some quarterback-needy team will likely make a move on Cassel. If the Patriots did not put the franchise tag on him, Cassel could have left without any compensation.

Now it will cost draft picks.

Or the Patriots can simply keep Cassel as insurance in case Tom Brady isn't ready for the open of the 2009 season as he recovers from major knee surgery.

That is unlikely. Cassel would count $14.6 million against the cap. With the news that Brady is making progress in his recovery, this looks more like a team trying to get something of value for Cassel.

What's a fair price?

Cassel could be a one-hit wonder, so it's tricky.  That's the concern for any team trading for him. Rushing to judgment on quarterbacks is risky -- see David Garrard and Derek Anderson -- and in this case you'd have to give up picks and give Cassel a long-term deal.

Is he worth that? He played well last season, his first as a starter since high school, but he struggled with the deep passes.
That would be a bit of a red flag for me.

I've I developed Cassel I'd keep him and feel good about playing him. But trading and paying him will is a big risk. Somebody will take it. I'm not sure I would.

 

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Comments

Since: Oct 17, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2009 7:37 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

Depending on what Favre does, it might be a good move for the Jets. The Lions, 49ers, Chiefs, and maybe the Rams and Buccs would be interested in the idea of bringing in Cassell.




Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2009 11:17 am
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

Why not?  It ain't my money.  One year an NFL quarterback does not make.  Just ask Derek Anderson or David Carr or Chad Pennington or Elvis Grbak.




Since: Feb 11, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2009 10:36 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

"What was his record against teams with winning records?  1-5?  No thanks."

 

Try 3-5 and two of those losses were close enough that hey could have won, dropped pass in the endzone here, coin toss, or stop old man Farve on 3 and a gizillion there..




Since: Apr 23, 2008
Posted on: February 7, 2009 8:51 am
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

I am not sure about trading for Matt Cassel. He has never proven himself in the playoffs and I am not sure if he is ready to lead a team.

 

I think he has talent though.




Since: Jan 29, 2009
Posted on: February 6, 2009 10:22 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

I would personally keep Matt Cassel becuase he is a great back up for Brady and even a good starter not many people thought that Cassel would do good after Brady got injured but he did great  geting them a 11-5 record this year but he still does need work with the deep pass but every QB can use work on something. But anyway Cassel should still be with the Patriots and if it was MY choice I would keep him




Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2009 6:49 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

"As far as the college game goes, he didn't fit in as well as Palmer or Leinart at USC..."

Soooo, are you saying Cassel has to be in the right system to be successful?  If he's not in the right system, then he's nothing more than a backup?  Then we agree...I think the Patriots system were what allowed Cassel to be successful.

"...The list is long of QBs that don't continue to succeed at the NFL level (Testeverde, Ryan Leaf, Heath Shuler, etc.)"

Very true, a successful college career does not guarantee success in the NFL.  However, of those QBs that are successful, how many were backups in college (and I mean for their entire collegiate career, not just a part of it)?  Anyone?

Perhaps my "wet paper bag" comment was a bit harsh, but seriously, what kind of pressure was there on him this year?  Almost everyone outside of Foxboro was sticking a fork in the Patriots when Brady went down.  If/when he signs a big money deal with another team, then there will be tons of expectations.  Everyone will expect him to be the difference.  In New England, all he had to do was get it to his talented teammates without messing it up.  I personally don't think he'll handle it very well.  I think he was a one hit wonder just like Scott Mitchell and Rob Johnson.  You say he isn't another Rob Johnson or Scott Mitchell...why not?  In your opinion, what makes him different?  They all had one good year filling in for injured starters.  They all went from being backups to big money deals.  And the first two failed when the spotlight was on them.  What about Cassel should make me believe he's any different?

I think Cassel makes a great backup, but there isn't anything about him that makes me think he's worth the price the Patriots will be asking for.  I'd rather take my chances with Thigpen.  I hope Mr. Pioli lives up to his reputation as an astute personell man, and realizes that the Chiefs have far too many holes to be paying that steep of a price for an unproven player.




Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2009 4:05 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

Its a brilliant move by the Patriots to franchise tag him - only if some suckers fall for it. PT Barnum would be proud! They are looking for some "Jack" to buy their magic bean - Matt Cassel. Who knows if he'll grow into the path to the golden goose. Right now he "looks" good to a lot of desparate teams, but who knows. Yes he is probably a better choice than any of this year's college players, but to throw so much $$ & picks to get him is crazy. Right now the Patriots hope somebody falls for their smoke and mirrors. If they say he is worth so much, then he must be?

To quote the movie Tommy Boy: " . . . if you want me to take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will."

Maybe Cassel isn't a turd in a box, but Belichick will certainly guarantee the box he comes in.




Since: Apr 24, 2007
Posted on: February 6, 2009 3:13 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

Lets see if I can explain this so a 7 year old or a Patriots fan, that would be you Patriots Power, can understand it.  Against the bad defensive teams Cassell had 10 touchdowns, in three games.  Against the rest of the league, 13 games, he had 11 touchdowns.  That would be just more than 1 per game, just fractionally higher than his interceptions per game.  Oakland was a bad team all year, not just in the games they weren't playing New England.  Denver was not a playoff team, and Arizona was playing as bad as anyone when New England thumped them. In more than half of his games he threw for just over 200 yards, not a very productive yardage total for a guy that is being touted as a franchise quarterback. 

  Cassell was an average talent surrounded by a wealth of talent.  Why would the Lion's trade for a guy that was undrafted and couldn't even start at USC?  This is not even remotely similiar to the Brady/Bledsoe situation.  Brady won the job from Bledsoe and kept it.  If Brady comes back this coming year will Cassell have a starting job?  No!  At best Cassell is a backup qb, no more and quite probably less.  When was the last time a team traded a #1 draft pick, not to mention pairing it with a 2nd or 3rd, to trade for a backup qb?

  Now as a Lion's fan ( I can hear you laughing) I know more about what the Lion's need than you do, and their most pressing need is not a qb, its linemen on both sides of the ball, linebackers and db's.  I don't believe that this new group the Lion's have hired are going to take the easy out and draft Stafford anyways, it won't matter who they draft this year, they are still going to have to win the fans back next year.  If they draft a qb they will have the same defeciencies that they have had the past couple of years and the fan base will be more disgusted with buisness as usual, not excited to watch a rookie qb get his ass sacked 75 times and the Lion's lose another 14 games.  There is also the little matter of the qb's that will be available in next years draft, and I think the Lion's will be drafting in the top ten again next year, so why wouldn't they wait and draft a better qb and not have to pay him the money that is slotted to the overall #1?

  Besides, Brady may not be able to play next year, or ever again for that matter, so if Cassell was so good why not keep him?  I think that New England is worried about Brady and they would love to fleece somebody for Cassell, a qb that made Moss look mortal. 




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: February 6, 2009 2:18 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

With the bonuses and guaranteed money paid to unproven college QBs (in recent years Vince Young, Alex Smith, Matt Leinhart as just some examples) with no idea if their game transfers to the NFL - if I were a team GM do I want to chance that or trade for Cassel? Cassel has demonstrated that his game does translate to being an NFL starter. He put up numbers, he won games, he showed he understands how to prepare, and he handled the demands of the press and the fans. To me Cassel is an easy decision over drafting any college QB.

At the present time the Patriots have only commited to cap space - no dollars are commited until Cassel signs the franchise tender. It would not surprise me that he has a wink & nod agreement with the Patriots not to sign it. In return they let him and his agent have a say as to where he is traded and maybe even negotiate a contract with them in advance of approving a trade. Why would he do this - he appreciates them drafting and developing him over the past four years and because the Patriots could just apply the tag and trade him anywhere they wanted anyway.




Since: Sep 15, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2009 2:13 pm
 

Would you trade for Matt Cassel?

If the rest of the league has any type of collective brain - no one would ever trade with the Patriots again. Thet have made a killing with their trades over the past few years - thus the superbowl wins (nice work in free agency, too). They get great players for peanuts - Randy Moss - and shell out washed up or unproven talent for piles of gold and draft picks. A Matt Cassel trade would be another colossal steal for the Patriots as they would get to raid the 1st round picks again - twice! Leave it to the Chiefs to get an unproven player and make a conference rival even stronger.

Moss - gave 4th round pick

Wes Welker - gave 2nd & 7th round picks

Deion Branch - got 1st round pick

Cory Dillon - gave 2nd round

 



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