Pete_Prisco

Everyone wants to see SB wins and a QB plays a major role in getting them, but you need a team around you to do it.  I can't think of a single QB that won a SB without most of the other peices around him.  I think Cutler has a right to be angry but he's not handling any of this well.  The Denver front office screwed everything up as well.  I think everyone is to blame for this and we'll see who is man enough to put it behind and get back the business.

WOW. This must be the worst comment I have read ever. So now SB's, wins and losses do not matter? Why in hell do we even bother watching the game then.

elway didn't win right aay. he was awful his first season. 

just because there is precedent for something doesn't make it right. what eli manning did was despicable too. that doesn't make cutler's antics any more endearing. and at least manning and elway won - something cutler has never done.

i hate it when people use win/loss records and sb rings as an argument which qb is better.  those are TEAM stats.  elway had a good defense.  eli had a good defense.  cutler has one of the worst defenses. 

dee,

I think you have one valid point. Mc Daniels screwed up. I've said it I don't know if in this or other forum but the guy was probably smoking crack when he thought of trading Cutler for Cassel (and this comes from a die hard Patriots fan). What I critisize in Cutler is his cry baby temper. He should move on for his own sake and that of his team. There's no place he would be better at than in Denver. My point is that he should calm down because he has a boss that he reports to (Mc Daniels) and who obviously has the blessing of the front office for personnel moves.

And most of all, Cutler needs to understand that it will be until he wins something that he can be considered a franchise QB, because up until now and since Plummer's departure, he shares responsibility on the team being an underachieving one. I'm just saying that this guy is not a franchise QB yet. He has the ability, but he's not there yet, so he should calm down when there are trade talks involving him. Oh, and BTW, if he leaves the Broncos, i bet he will never be a franchise QB, as he has had the fortune of playing behind one of the best OL in the NFL (I honestly don't think that in Detroit he will get the protection he gets in Denver).

And now for some corrections as is typically always needed for Prisco.

The biggest is related to his side swiping at Elway. Elway led the Broncos to FIVE Superbowls, not two. He won TWO.

Elways so called brazen move was not more cry-baby than Cutler. Cutler has already been with the team for three years. His feelings are hurt when he learns he could possibly be traded and that the world doesn't revolve around him. Then he passive aggressively puts his house and his parent's house up for sale in an 'I'll show them' fit. Give me a break about who's more babyish.

Elway's was sitting as the number one pick in the '83 draft. His father didn't want him to play for the brutish Frank Kush, who coached the Colts at the time. Elway's father, Jack, who coached college at the same time Kush coached college at ASU (same time Elway was at Stanford), saw Kush get fired for allegedly pressuring players and coaches to NOT rat him out as a physical and psychological jerk while going through a lawsuit filed against him by a player who sued Kush for punching him in the face. Not necessarily someone I'd want my son to play for....AND the year before the '83 draft, Kush had just led the Colts to a spectacular ZERO win season (albiet shortened by a strike). So not wanting your son to play for that man or franchise (at the time in disarray and a year away from Jim Irsay's infamous Mayflower move to Indy) doesn't sound too baby-ish when you compare it to Cutler's antics today.

Obviously I am an Elway fan with some bias but also a big Cutler fan. I just compare with knowledge as opposed to typing whatever you want to type.

Every single one of the QBs you mentioned had the confidence and backing of their head coach. I'm sure if you were to have asked Bellichick, Dungy, or Cower if they would consider putting their QB on the block, the answer would have been a definitive and resounding HAYYYYYAAAAL NO! "He's our guy" would have been the message by what the coach said and did.

McDaniels screwed up. He should have never entertained ANY trade talks, let alone one for Matt Cassell of all people, and he definitely shouldn't have lied about it then admit it later on. That's like walking up to the plate with 2 outs and automatically facing a 0-2 count. Odds are whenever you swing, it will be out of desperation not because it was a good pitch.

You want to talk about locker room distractions?  There is NO bigger distraction to a team than a vote of no confidence from their leader in public. Period. And a vote of no confidence for the franchise QB?!? If I'm in that lockeroom, I'm naturally going to think "damn...if he gonna play JC out like that, he probably would trade me, too." Nobody does good work when they believe their manager feels they are dispensible.

Look. Cutler's a diva.  But you don't put your diva on the trading block and act shocked when he reacts like a diva. What do you think will happen if Beyonce's record label discussed dropping her for a lesser known, upstart? Probably the same way. THE NERVE!

Unfortunately, McDaniels knows a hell of alot about coordinating but very little about motivation, loyalty and team management. Of all the things McDaniels could have done, it seems like in his short tenure he's managed to find THE most damaging course of action to take. It's already unravelled his lockerroom before even giving it a chance to unite.

If you thought you had problems with Shanahan and Cutler, you probably won't be pleased with the results you'll get without Cutler and the environment McDaniels has created. I predict in 2 years, both will be gone and you'll be back at square one.

Manning did that crap before he was even in the nfl, before he was even drafted.  Cutler is pissed cause after an all-pro season he's thrown up to be traded for a guy that before this season didn't even start a single game since high school.  Before that he'd done everything right, everything deserving to be rewarded and claimed the guy they would lean on for leadership in the changing of the organization. Instead they throw him into trade talks, something that serioulsly undermines anybody's ability to lead in any organization of any type. Dude,I'd be pissed, and I wouldn't want to work for my new boss either.

You said franchise QB, that's the key. A franchise QB is that who leads his team to the playoffs year after year (like Plummer did), or that who wins a SB being the leader of the team, or that wins a conference title, no matter if the defense sucks (Kurt Warner for instance).

I'm surprised at how many Broncos fans have bought into Cutler's argument that his arm is better than Elway's. He hasn't won anything, and now is demanding a trade. This guy should just grow up. 

Judge nailed it. Cutler cries about everything and he hasn't even proven that he can beat the Chargers, a team he faces twice a year. He has a losing record. When Denver switched to Cutler they had a winning record which he helped to screw up. He was part responsible (by an a-la Favre choke down the stretch) for Denver's massive blow of a 3 game lead in the west with 3 games to play, which by the way, had never happened in the history of the NFL.

And now this is not about Mc Daniels (yes, he screwed it too, I don't think Cassel is a better option than Cutler), this is about Cutler being Cutler, being a distraction for the whole team, creating locker room and media controversy, and continuing to argue against Mc Daniels. This guy should understand that, no matter how strong his arm is, Mc Daniels is his boss (whether he will be succesfull or not remains to be seen) and that anyone in the NFL is tradable. Period.

Cutler has not accomplish anything to be considered a franchise QB, a franchise QB is that who can make a difference and lead the team to be competitive. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Ben Roethisberger, Kurt Warner, Phillip Rivers, and Eli Manning are the only Franchise QB's that this league has. All of them have taken teams that were subpar to a contender level. Cutler, on the other hand, took a team that once was a contender and has managed (with help of a terrible defense) to degrade it into a laughable franchise.

Pre-friggin-cisely. Nicely done, Prisco.

Judge is off his rocker. I can't imagine that any franchise NFL QB just coming off a Pro-Bowl would be OK with finding out he's on the trading block. Not a one. And for Matt Cassel no less. MATT CASSELL! The same Matt Cassell that barely won the back-up spot less than 12 months ago. You know...Matt "I Ain't Start Since Grade School" Cassell! What an insult!

I'm sure if Judge came in one morning and found out CBSSports.com was considering trading him to the New York Post to write nonsensical political cartoons about chimpanzees and was going to give me his section to write, he'd be just as offended.

Prisco...talk to your boy!