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Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

Posted on: April 23, 2009 3:10 pm
Edited on: April 23, 2009 3:15 pm
 

The Atlanta Falcons filled a huge hole at tight end Thursday by trading for Tony Gonzalez.

But they paid a steep price. Too steep in my mind.

The Falcons gave up a second-round pick in next year's draft for Gonzalez, the veteran tight end they acquired from the Kansas City Chiefs. I still think Gonzalez has two or three good years, but at 33 his best football is behind him.

I'm not sure that's worth a second-round pick. Gonzalez did catch 96 passes last season on a bad team, so for at least the next couple of years he should still be able to play at a high level. The Falcons' tight ends combined to catch 19 passes last season, with Justin Peele leading the way with 15.

So you can see the need. The Falcons might have considered a tight end early in this draft, and that player would not have played to the level of Gonzalez in 2009. That's a fact. But down the road, who knows?

Age and wear and tear are the reason I think the price is high. But who am I to question Falcons general manager Thomas Dimitroff? Last year, I didn't like his signing of Michael Turner. Boy was I wrong. And I told him I was wrong. We laugh about it now.

This will probably work out that way as well. So far, everything Dimitroff has done has paid off big time.

One more thing: Good luck defending that offense next year with Gonzalez in the middle of the field.

 

 

 

Category: NFL
Comments

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: May 8, 2009 11:13 pm
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

You still don't get it PJ.

He used a pick from this years draft in the same pick range of an EXAMPLE of the type of player available in that slot range from one year to the next.  In other words, he meant that the pick next year would be someone with talents along the lines of McCoy.

He did not in any way intend for it to be taken that the Falcons traded the 2009 pick, or that McCoy would be the likely player drafted in that slot next year.

If you don't get it after this, I am done.  I can't explain it any better without a sledgehammer.



Since: Jun 13, 2008
Posted on: April 25, 2009 12:06 am
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

The Chiefs needed to move Gonzalez along with some other players who have been vocal about wanting out (Larry Johnson). The Chiefs still went 2-14 with Gonzalez having another great season and he might have one or two years like that left in him. The Chiefs won't rebound fast enough to have Gonzalez make much of an impact.

Gonzalez gets an opportunity to reach the Super Bowl with the trade to a contending team, while the Chiefs get another opportunity to draft another building block for a new team Pioli is trying to assemble. Gonzalez was on the trade block last season and a third round pick was the best the Chiefs could get at the time. Getting a second-round pick for next year is about the best you can get for Gonzalez.


It's time to turn the page in KC. Pioli wasn't brought in to keep the Chiefs the same. He needs to turnover the roster to try to transform the Chiefs into a younger, more competitive team. The Chiefs need new players and new team chemistry to improve.



Since: Sep 27, 2007
Posted on: April 24, 2009 7:47 pm
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

Being an Eagle fan, the price was too LOW in my opinion. The Falcons have added the missing piece to their offense, giving Matt Ryan not only an outlet, but a top notch guy in the Red Zone. I cannot believe that the Eagles, who have been missing this type of player, let him go. Donovan McNabb is nearing the end of his carreer, and the window to win a Super Bowl is slamming shut. I give all the credit in the world to the Falcons to have the nads to go out and get a guy who could put them over the top. With a 2nd year QB, let alone an aging vet like McNabb.



Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: April 24, 2009 4:10 pm
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

Football is a team sport. With the acquisition of Tony Gonzalez the Falcons have added another option to an offense that was middle of the pack in 2008. TG will help all of the Falcons offensive skill players. I don't think it will hurt Michael Jenkins like some people believe because they want to balance their attack which implies more passing. (2nd ranked rushing; 14th passing).  This move could easily bump Atlanta into the top ten with the bonus of gaining the experience of a "been there, done that" perennial pro bowler.

Now Atlanta can focus their draft efforts on improving their 24th ranked defense. The Falcons need to bolster their OL but both DL and LB need to be addressed first. I would take the best player available that meet one of their needs with every pick (duh!). I guess we'll have to wait and see how they do in the draft.



Since: Apr 11, 2007
Posted on: April 24, 2009 1:48 pm
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

the chiefs became a much better team the second half of the year and that was due to the combination of tyler thigpen and tony gonzalez. with gonzo, matt cassel had a good chance of throwing a decent amount of touchdowns this year. now matt ryan has that opp. he just picked up a quaranteed 8-10 touchdown passes to his tight end. those catches could be the difference in winning and losing. anyone who watched a kansas city game last year knows how dangerous a relationship between a tight end and a qb can be. with one or two stops in the fourth quarter by a bad defense in about 6 games, kc comes close to winning the division. last year, the offense was not kc's problem (once tyler took over), it was the defense. you can't blow one and two touchdown leads every week and blame the offense. the falcons have a lot better defense and more weapons at their disposal. the addition to tony only makes it harder for d coordinators to game plan against. this team will be scary to play against for the next 2 or 3 years to come. was this a high price to pay for a chance to contend for a superbowl for the next three years? only person dumb enough to think that is prisco (and maybe al davis). thank you for everything you did in kc tony. looks like i have to order me a matt cassel jersey now. hopefully i am not mad about it around week 6.




Since: Jan 21, 2007
Posted on: April 24, 2009 11:29 am
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

the pick isn't even for this year, it is for next year in 2010.  im surprised prisco maintained your respect even as far as the turner deal, you must not read a lot of his articles.  Tony Gonzalez was a monster last year on a terrible team, he  pushes Atlanta much closer to a the chances of a legitimate super bowl appearance

 

 




Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: April 24, 2009 10:02 am
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

 UGA_Steve he actually put a players name down (McCoy). The real key here is, that Prisco drew the short straw and doesn't even believe what he wrote. It's a good trade for the Falcons, and it CAN be a good trade for KC.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 24, 2009 2:00 am
 

Don't forgot compensation picks

The second round pick next year may be anywhere from the 30's to 60's, depending on how the Falcons do in 2009. 

To offset this somewhat, the Falcons expect to receive compensatory picks in the 2010 draft for players lost in this years free agency market.  (Foxworth, Brooking, Malloy)  Given the pro-bowl status and history of a couple of those players, the Falcons should receive at least one extra third rounder, and probably a total of 3 extra picks next year before round five. 

So, while we lost a second rounder next year, Dimitroff could easily leverage the extra picks and move up.  Teams are starting to covet these mid-round picks because they can get the players in for cheap with no guaranteed contracts, and still control their rights for a decent amount of time.  Given that, they are becoming more and more popular as trade bait.

I don't neccessarily think Gonzalez is a great fit for the current offense in Atlanta, but he will still have a HUGE impact because defenses will have to respect him.  More importantly, he is middle of the field weapon that Atlanta lacked in 2008.  He is also another weapon inside the red zone, which is one spot Atlanta tended to struggle last year.  The opposing MLB's cheated up to stop the run all year because we had very little over the middle, and this will prevent that. 

This could be a more important addition to the Falcons running game than a blocking tight end might have been.  The Falcons love to run between the tackles, not outside them, and that limits a blocking tight end's responsibility a little.  Now, with Gonzalez in, he will keep the LB's and safeties honest, and if they dare not pay attention to them, Ryan will find him.

Great move by the Falcons bringing in a quality player and more importantly a quality PERSON to help continue building a team of winners.  Just a couple of years ago we had a team of whiners (Horn, Crumpler, Hall) and we dumped all those losers and brought in some quality character guys and look at the change.  We have a coach that players like and therefore once we establish a good year or two together, then free agent vets will WANT to come to Atlanta instead of us having to overpay for them. 

So far, Dimitroff is on a roll, and this will be another gem of a deal, even if Gonzo doesn't put up big numbers.  The impact on the younger players will be huge, so it will benefit the Falcons no matter how well he plays.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 24, 2009 1:46 am
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

Heh.  Meant to say 'I think you mis-understood' in that first sentence.




Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 24, 2009 1:45 am
 

Was price too high for Tony Gonzalez?

PJ,

 I don't think you mis-understood what the original poster meant.  He specifically said the Falcons could win the division this year and said that they would land somewhere around the 52 pick.  He then gave an example based off this years draft of who the 52nd pick would be.

So dude, before you criticize a poster, read the article more thoroughly.  He could have been cleaer on the draft part, but I understand where he was going on first read and that was before I saw your post.



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