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Don't mess with Roger

Posted on: August 13, 2009 10:31 am
Edited on: August 14, 2009 9:58 am
 
NFL commissioner Roger Goodell sent out another strong message Thursday that he won't tolerate bad off-the-field behavior when he suspended Cleveland Browns receiver Donte Stallworth for the entire season without pay.

Stallworth was suspended for violating both the league's substance-abuse policy and the personal-conduct policy after pleading guilty to DUI manslaughter resulting from his killing a man while driving under the inlfuence on March 14.

Stallworth met with the commissioner twice, once this week, and had hoped to get off with a lesser suspension. But Goodell is quickly becoming like the judge nobody wants to see in court.

He throws the book at these guys.

Come to think of it, his penalty is worse than what Stallworth got in real court, which was 30 days in jail, for which he served less than a week.

In a release sent out by the league, Goodell was quoted as saying,"As you recognized both at and following the hearing, guilt or innocence as a matter of criminal law is not the same as a violation of NFL policies.  Here, longstanding league policies make clear that discipline is warranted “if a player is convicted of or admits to a violation of the law…relating to the use of alcohol.”  The degree of discipline may take into account “aggravating circumstances, including but not limited to felonious conduct or felonious injury or death of third parties…”  All of those factors are present here.  There is no question that your actions had tragic consequences to an innocent man and his family, and that you have violated both the Substances of Abuse and Personal Conduct Policies.  In that respect, you are clearly guilty of conduct detrimental to the integrity of and public confidence in the NFL.”
 
Goodell really had no choice but to go strong with discipline, even though Stallworth has truly been remorseful.

When St. Louis Rams defensive end Leonard Little killed a woman in a drunk-driving accident in 1998, he was suspended by then-commissioner Paul Tagliabue for eight games.

It's clear that Goodell is much tougher than his predecessor when it comes to handing out suspensions, which is message all NFL players need to understand.
Category: NFL
Tags: Stallworth
 
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Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2009 6:57 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

After reading some of these posts,  I reaffirm that many sports fans are just complete and utter morons.  Roger Godell handed out an appropriate punishment, yet you zero IQ fans are more angry with him than at Stallworth, a thug that killed someone.  Please, put the meth away, grow a brain, lose the crack pipe and join the rest of the civilized world.  Idiots.



Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2009 6:52 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

Oh, is someone upset because another thug/criminal player is being punished?



Since: Oct 24, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2009 6:27 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

My beef is actually more with Odell's penalty than Stallworth.  I probably should have made the point that ODell got 1 year for a DUI, which is what Stallworth got for killing somebody.  Odell is a scumbag piece of crap who wasted his golden opportunity like so many before him (and unfortunately so many after him).  Period.  Was the punishment of losing millions of dollars of income from playing in the NFL justified?  Absolutely not.  I don't care if he got his criminal justice degree or was working to become a doctor or the next president, NFL salaries make just about anything look like chump change.  The DUI coupled with his next strike, a fight in a bar, still don't add up to losing his livelihood.

DUI's are not considered felonies in most instances unless you are a repeat offender and would not stop you from freaking working at McDonalds or most other places.  I lose my job as an accountant and lose a good living but no where near what Odell lost.  The punishment should fit the crime.

You can't tell me that most people have not done something stupid (i.e. drink and drive at some point) and gotten away with it.  20 year olds do stupid things.  I count my lucky stars that I made it through those younger years not getting busted for a DUI or even hitting someone.  Especially had I been an NFL player with Roger GODell ready to put his large thumb all over my life.

Losing your living is losing your living.  If he was foolish enough to squander the MILLIONS he was paid in the guranteed portion of his contract then he deserves poverty. 

Also, if he was foolish enough to not realize that he had a job that pays MILLIONS for playing a violent game then he deserves what he got.  It comes to this.  He's a douche and HE RUINED HIS GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY BY THE COURSE OF HIS CHOICES.  (notice the plural)
He knew that there would be penalties and suspensions for his actions and he still got into trouble.  That says to me that he didnt care. 

He did not get screwed, he screwed himself.  He slammed his hand in the car door and you're saying its not right that it hurt. 

If someone is willing to pay me millions to do something I love and tell me that I have to behave and I dunno...obey the law or I could lose part if not all of what I am getting, and I hose it up.  I would hope that the world would have the sense not to blame the guy that handed down the punishment. 

As far as "GODell" being ready to put his thumb all over a players life, be serious.  These kids know what time it is.  They know the score, and they know the heat they face if they walk into that office.  How can you possibly feel even the slightest bit sorry for them?  Especcially repeat offenders like Thurman. 




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Since: Aug 13, 2009
Posted on: August 13, 2009 5:53 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

    Donte Stallworth has made a serious mistake as is evident by his own admission. One night of stupidity has caused one man his life. That family will not have the joy of laughing with their love one or touching him on this earth anymore. He (Donte) should thank his lucky stars that he was only suspended without pay for one year. I say kudos to the Commissioner. 



Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: August 13, 2009 5:23 pm
 

Don't mess with GODell

Don't mess with Roger

 

Don't mess with Roger GODell


Truth be known, his REAL name is Roger GODell in reference to his GOD complex.  I think killing someone warrants a pretty harsh punishment but isn't that what the courts are for?  To keep someone from earning a living for 12 months (or longer if GODell doesn't believe Stallworth found religion during his 12 month banishment) goes too far.

Odell Thurman led the Bengals in tackles in his rookie season and could have been one of the best LBs in the game.  He was suspended for a year for not getting back in town in time for a drug test and later for drunk driving.  He was suspended for a second year after a fight in a bar (no charges filed).  He never made it back to the NFL.  Not saying he was a saint but to deprive someone of the chance to make a living is unreal.  Especially when your NFL career lasts an average of 3.5 years.

Why the double standard?  Would the rest of us lose our jobs for drunk driving?  Maybe if you were a public servant but most likely the answer is no.  Making crazy amounts of money and the wrath of jealous fans who would supposedly be so much more appreciative of their opportunity if they could play football for a living do not warrant the double standard.


Give it a break:

You made my case for me in several ways.

1.  You ask how he can keep someone from making a living?  He doesn't.  They are very well compensated these days.  It isnt the way it was years ago when a player had to work in the offseason to make ends meet.  Even the league minimum pays many many times what anyone else with a highschool diploma that left college would get paid.  ZERO sympathy

2.  Odell was not deprived of the CHANCE to make a living.  Quite the contrary.  His CHANCE was when he got a free ride to college (did he finish?).  His CHANCE was when he was drafted and WAS paid.  His CHANCE was when he played well and COULD have stayed clean and gotten another huge payday when his rookie contract was up.  He got another CHANCE to play and could not stay out of trouble.  Even now if he tried he would be given another CHANCE to play.  Seems he has had plenty of CHANCES.

3.  Double standard?  What double standard?  If a bus driver gets a DUI and cant drive do they keep thier job?  If a teacher pops on a urinalysis do they keep thier jobs?  If you get a DUI and miss work for a couple of days while you are trying to scrape up bail do you keep your job?  If you get a felony possession charge you cant even work at a freaking McDonalds.  If you are convicted of a felony you cant own property, I wonder how that would affect a farmer, or a small business owner.  It seems to me that there is no double standard, simply people in all walks of life that fail to meet a standard set before them, and people all to willing to absolve them of blame. 


Would I be more appreciative of the CHANCE to make that kind of money?  HELL YES I WOULD.  Am I jealous?  Maybe, but I am also thankful for what I do have.  I dont do drugs because I dont want to lose what I have.  I dont drink and drive because I appreciate what
I have.  I'm not a blemish to society because I want to be a part of it.

 

My beef is actually more with Odell's penalty than Stallworth.  I probably should have made the point that ODell got 1 year for a DUI, which is what Stallworth got for killing somebody.  Odell is a scumbag piece of crap who wasted his golden opportunity like so many before him (and unfortunately so many after him).  Period.  Was the punishment of losing millions of dollars of income from playing in the NFL justified?  Absolutely not.  I don't care if he got his criminal justice degree or was working to become a doctor or the next president, NFL salaries make just about anything look like chump change.  The DUI coupled with his next strike, a fight in a bar, still don't add up to losing his livelihood.

DUI's are not considered felonies in most instances unless you are a repeat offender and would not stop you from freaking working at McDonalds or most other places.  I lose my job as an accountant and lose a good living but no where near what Odell lost.  The punishment should fit the crime.

You can't tell me that most people have not done something stupid (i.e. drink and drive at some point) and gotten away with it.  20 year olds do stupid things.  I count my lucky stars that I made it through those younger years not getting busted for a DUI or even hitting someone.  Especially had I been an NFL player with Roger GODell ready to put his large thumb all over my life.



Since: Jun 16, 2009
Posted on: August 13, 2009 5:19 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

Roger GODdell is out of control. The players union needs to file suit against the NFL. It can't be legal to deny someone the right to make a living after their legal punishment has been administered. It is not the first time as he considered suspending Michael Vick after he paid his debt to society. GODdell forgets that he has a job because of these athletes. If they all refused to play for him, then where would he and the NFL be. The league is about the players and they should flex their muscle!!!



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: August 13, 2009 4:54 pm
 

Don't mess with Roger

"Then you have this criminal murderer, Stallworth."  This is why youre 'serving your country'.  Ignorance is bliss isn't it?  He didn't murder anyone fool.  And if you had any balls yourself you wouldn't be killing people in their own country...you'd be fighting to stop our from killing people as dumb as you with sham wars.  Try to LEARN.  It helps.


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