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The Firing Line

Posted on: September 3, 2009 11:21 am

Teams usually don't fire coordinators until after a few weeks -- if at all.

But this week we've had two teams -- the Kansas City Chiefs and Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- fire their offensive coordiantors only days before the open of the regular season.

The Chiefs replaced Chan Gailey earlier this week and then the Bucs dismissed Jeff Jagodzinski Thursday.

Chiefs coach Todd Haley, who has an offensive background, kept Gailey on his staff from the previous Chiefs staff so his firing makes some sense, even if the timing does not. After all, you want your own guys.

But Jagodzinski is a shock.

Quarterbacks coach Greg Olson takes over as coordinator for first-year coach Raheem Morris. This is the same Olson who took a shot at newly named starter Byron Leftwich this spring. But don't buy much into that. Word is, Olson is a big Leftwich supporter.

And that's where the rub might come. There is some talk that Jagodzinski, whose offense features a lot of rollout stuff, wasn't enamored with Leftwich as the quarterback choice. Luke McCown, who Leftwich beat out, is the more mobile of the two quarterbacks.

At any rate, two first-time head coaches face staff changes 10 days before they play a game for real.

That's never a good thing.
Category: NFL

Since: Dec 31, 2006
Posted on: September 4, 2009 10:24 pm

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Why isn't anyone mentioning that not only were Chan Gailey, Jeff Jagodzinski, but Turk Schonert also was fired this past week. These three coordinators situations were clearly all different, whether it be that Jagodzinski was hired by Morris to be the offensive coordinator only to be fired before the season, or Chan Gailey who came in with Herm Edwards in 2008 spent this offseason trying to build the offense Todd Haley wanted installed only to be fired, or Schonert who spent most of last season installing the no-huddle offense for Dick Jauron only to watch his offense struggle through the preseason and eventually cost him his job. Gailey, and Jags will most likely end up back in college football, while Schonert will most likely sit this season out.

Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: September 3, 2009 11:02 pm

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Really?  The week before the opening game? That's just weird.  I don't think I've ever seen that happen.  I can understand after the 3rd or 4th game, but before the season starts?  I figured Haley would have gotten rid of Gailey before pre-season even started, since he is an offensive minded coach.  The Jagz firing took me by total surprise.  I don't know if it's because he's not happy with Leftwich starting, not being able to gameplan or playcall, or whatever, but the week before the seaons really starts?  It's bad enough that they have a first year head coach that's younger then his players, but to fire an OC a week away from the opening game, just plain weird.  What's next?  Are we going to have teams start firing defensive coordinators in the pre-season for giving up too many points with third stringers in? 

Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2009 7:02 pm

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Actually, most of that info appeared first at Pewter Report.

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: September 3, 2009 6:00 pm

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Well when you have a QB like Byron Leftwich who can utilize the entire field, the last thing you want to do as a HC is cut it in half with boot play  offense. You Have to give Morris the benefit of the doubt in his decision considering Byron was brought on board months after the decision to hire Jag.

Once Byron emerged as the starter, the offense clearly had to take on a more verticle dynamic to be able to harness the strengths of your QB, something Jack Del Rio refused to do on the Jaguars with Byron.

So hitting on your point this was a solid move by the HC, besides Olson has plenty of experience with a verticle offense after being the OC with the Lions and Rams.

Thing is the HC was faced with other issues regardind Jag, word is he was incompetant in the class room with the offense as well as on the field with the former DB's coach last season having to get into the frey with coaching the offense filling in the gaps of coaching reflected in Jags style.

With Olson looking at greener pasturees in KC for an OC job, it was a no brainer that he was needed for the position there in Tampa, especially with the OC there deligating his playcaslling duties on offense to his former OC in Boston. What is a HC to do when he has his OC deligating the duties given to him to the RB's coach?  

This was an excellent move By morris unlike the situation with the Chief's Raheem Morris actually had an OC/Assistant HC who was obviously better to step in place of the OC who was fired.

To me this has got to bring the players coach closer to the players with them seeing that the expectations he has of them are the same he has of himself, and the rest of the coaches on staff.

Morris made a mistake, but he proved his worth by making it right, and that is something I think the players will be more ept to gravitate to than anything else.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2009 5:47 pm

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I think DailyRich is getting his information from the St. Pete Times:

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 3, 2009 4:31 pm

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Pete- does your first sentence really state what you intend?  Teams don't fire coordinators until after a few weeks- of what?  Do you mean after a few weeks of the regular season, or after a few weeks after the season is over?  Have you done much research into the average date of an OC's termination?  Bringing facts to a story help.

But both of these moves are odd.  I have been a Chiefs fan for over 25 years now, and I wondered why Haley waited so late in the pre-season.  I wondered what finally happened to make the Bucs part with their QC prior to the final preseason game.  What was the tipping point- was it lack or skills or ego problems.  I can't see this contributing to a strong start for the Bucs.

But Pete- you are getting paid for your work.  You are a professional writer and it needs show in all aspects of your writing.  Write in a clear and concise manner and get your point across.  Much like when you wrote that unnamed players implied that Brett Favre's wife might have something to do with his return, your "there is some talk" is just poor unsupported journalism.

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2009 4:31 pm

Jagodzinski said OMG! It's Leftwich!

Jagodzinski said after he was informed that his starting QB for 2009 was Leftwich, "I  might was well hang myself from Raymond James Stadium."
Tampa Bay fans: How did this team get so screwed up with a new young coach with no experience and a QB in Leftwich?

Since: Jan 16, 2007
Posted on: September 3, 2009 4:30 pm

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I'm curious, where are you getting your information.  I've been trying to find out the real reason behind this move, and had heard the same hints on Jagz.

Since: Nov 9, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2009 3:21 pm

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The Jets must be patting themselves on the back for passing on this guy, right?

Since: Nov 16, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2009 2:33 pm

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What do you think you get with 14 yr. old Head Coaches.

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