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Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Posted on: October 5, 2010 11:08 pm
Edited on: October 6, 2010 10:01 am

The Minnesota Vikings' trade for Randy Moss means one thing: desperation.

Don't get me wrong. I think Moss can play. I think Moss is still a legitimate deep threat.
But the Vikings have to part with a 2011 third-round pick, and then pay Moss a long-term contract.

That's risky for a receiver who is 33 years old. Does he help this season? Yes. And that's what this is all about.

Brett Favre is in the final year of his career -- or so he says -- and the Vikings have to win now. With Sidney Rice out with an injury, it means they lack a big-play receiver.

Moss is still that, but for how long? It;s not a good move for the long-term viability of the franchise.

From the Patriots end, I ask this: What are you thinking doing this?

The Patriots are 3-1, tied for the AFC East lead, and they don't have a deep threat to replace him. Do they think Wes Welker and Julian
Edelman and any other slot receiver can do what they do without Moss's presence on the field?Moss makes those guys go with his ability to stretch a defense. Without him, the dynamic of the offense changes in a big way.

"It would be a lot easier to defend when he isn't there," said one NFC defensive coordinato Tuesday night.

Yes, Moss is unhappy in New England. So what. His job is to play and as long as he's under contract he has no choice but to play.

The Patriots are dumb to trade him. The Vikings are even dumber trading for him.

If you recall, Favre pushed the Packers brass to acquire Moss when he was with Green Bay. Are his fingerprints on this one? Time will tell.

The way I see it, this is a lose-lose for both teams.

Moss will help the Vikings, but it's clear it's Super Bowl or bust for them now. Anything less is failure. It's all about the now. Favre and Moss together. Whew.

As for the Patriots, they are in rebuilding mode. At 3-1, that doesn't make sense. Do they think their special-teams will get two touchdowns every week?

Then again, Bill Belichick's track record on personnel hasn't been so sparkling lately.

I just don't get this one at all.

Category: NFL
Tags: Randy Moss

Since: Oct 7, 2010
Posted on: October 7, 2010 12:23 am

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

For all intents and purposes, Moss was traded after Week 1 when he went on the rant about not being respected after a great win over the Bengals.  The Pats were not going to extend the contract after this year anyway, but the Week 1 post game idiocy sealed the deal.  It was just a matter of the Pats finding the right stooge.....along came the Vikings.  With the assortment of personalities the Vikings will implode in the second half of the year.  No way this chemistry works out.  Favre's last pass of the season will probably be a pick once again.  My prediction is misery ahead for the Vikes.

As to the Pats, their hand was forced.  I think the fallout from the week 1 rant was the impact that it could potentially have on a very young and impressionable locker room.  And, by the way, there is some significant talent left on the offensive side of the ball.  No one even near the talent level of Moss, but I think fans will be impressed by Brandon Tate over the course of the season.  He does have breakaway speed.  And before his knee injury at North Carolina he was more highly rated than Hakeem Nicks.  Taylor Price is a work in progress.  All the tools, but he suffered from a very poor offensive scheme in the Ohio program.

So, where do the Pats go?  They could package some picks for either Vincent Jackson or Steve Smith.  Jackson is doubtful.  The DUI the morning of a playoff game would not sit well with Belichick or Robert Kraft.  Steve Smith is a great receiver.  I'm not sure he fits the Patriots scheme this year, though I think he would be a solid addition.  I think the Pats will hold and look to the draft.  Although in past years Belichick has used the extra picks to move down, I think this is the year that he pulls the trigger to move up and target perhaps an Ingram or a Quinn.  I think he really tries to steal someone early in the 2nd round.  2011 would be a year for quality over quantity.  The Pats have gone for quantity the past two years to re-load without too much rebuilding.  Next year's draft should be different.  And, with a slotting system for rookies, it would make sense to go high in the first round for the Pats.

In the end, I don't think Belichick has given up on the year.  Far from it.  I think he feels he has a very, very good team with a defense that will have ups and downs but will steadily improve over the course of the season.  I think it came down to the fragility of a young locker room over a disgruntled Hall of Famer.

Just my two cents.   

Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: October 7, 2010 12:23 am

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Hey Prisco, If the aquistion of Randy Moss is all that was needed for Adrian Peterson to face seven man fronts, I'll take it....well.....ALL DAY!!!!!

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: October 7, 2010 12:03 am

Trading picks that won't play.

people actually think that next year is going to happen, I mine as well believe in the tooth fairy. Without any break on the collective bargaining agreement trading next years pick for a pro bowl caliber wide reciever seems to me a no brainer. Maybe it doesn't make a difference in the vikes record, maybe it won't won't revive a tired Favre arm, but no one in the world would talk this much about it if it wasn't more likely that it will. Besides the fact that since 2007 every major acquisition (Hutch, Peterson, Rice, Allen, Favre and Harvin) They have earned the trust of Viking fans. But as we all know writers will always try to rip down players who are successful, and build up the up and coming, whatever keeps food on your plate i guess but we should know better. Favre, Moss, Percy, Peterson, and Sidney back soon. We'll see you in the playoffs.

Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:58 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Holy S**T  that was the worst analysis I think I have ever read. Pete The Patriots currently have a two TE set that is very effective. The Pats also have a solid runningt game. Moss is talented but the Pats were already moving in a different direction given his childish rant that served notice that Moss was no longer a team player. The PATS NOW HAVE 8 picks in the first 4 rounds of the 2011 draft.  Your analysis was that of a simpleton unable to decipher the clear upside of the trade to the Patriots long term prospects of building another Championship team.  The Patriots will be fine with out Moss. They did manage to win 3 SUPER BOWLS before he showed up.

Since: May 23, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:45 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Says it all!

Since: Jul 12, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:41 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Proofread you bum!
What's a defensive coordinato???????

This web-site is sadly catching up to the dumbing down of america.  The vast number of typos on Sportsline is getting embarrassing.  It's getting to be everyday.  Did CBS lay some people off or are they paying hacks as professional writers?

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:38 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

This acquisition is only bad for the Vikings, if they sign him now for 3+ years for big money and use up salary cap.  A 3rd round pick can easily be a bust and really; the vikings are in SB or Bust; they are going a lot worse if Brett Favre isn't there anymore or can't play the way he has played in the past.

Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:34 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Obviously if the Patriots traded Moss for a 3rd round pick; the guy is causing a problem and likely not playing to the fullest/preparing to the fullest.  The Patriots have been winning 10+ games a year during rebuilding modes.  If the defense ever gets good enough, they can win again.
Yeah, Randy Moss is a talented player and the Patriots won't get another receiver like that any time soon.  He was a great team player in 07 when he needed to prove himself.  He was also a great teammate after he got the contract that he wanted.  The Patriots will miss that, but they won't miss what he has become now and is going to be for them.
He'll do well with the Vikings, unless Brett Favre has a breakdown because of age. 
The Patriots would be foolish to give Moss a new contract and appease him.  He's 33 and if there is no football next year, they'd be paying him for when he's 35,36,37 years old.  Even without lockout concerns, it wouldn't make much sense.

Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:28 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Prisco just wrote this because everyone else has already written about how it's good for the Vikings.  Good idea, terrible attempt at justifying why it's bad for Minnesota. 

Since: Feb 24, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:05 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Would not have expected you to say anything else Prisco. How many years in a row are you going to write "The Brett Favre made a mistake coming back this year" article? I'm sure one of these years it will pay off. Maybe when Favre is 50! Moss still has at least a couple of years of relevance left, so it's definitely worth a third round pick.  As far as the "long term viability of the franchise", there won't be one in Minnesota unless they win some games, and without Moss this year the prospect of that looks bleak.

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