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Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Posted on: October 5, 2010 11:08 pm
Edited on: October 6, 2010 10:01 am

The Minnesota Vikings' trade for Randy Moss means one thing: desperation.

Don't get me wrong. I think Moss can play. I think Moss is still a legitimate deep threat.
But the Vikings have to part with a 2011 third-round pick, and then pay Moss a long-term contract.

That's risky for a receiver who is 33 years old. Does he help this season? Yes. And that's what this is all about.

Brett Favre is in the final year of his career -- or so he says -- and the Vikings have to win now. With Sidney Rice out with an injury, it means they lack a big-play receiver.

Moss is still that, but for how long? It;s not a good move for the long-term viability of the franchise.

From the Patriots end, I ask this: What are you thinking doing this?

The Patriots are 3-1, tied for the AFC East lead, and they don't have a deep threat to replace him. Do they think Wes Welker and Julian
Edelman and any other slot receiver can do what they do without Moss's presence on the field?Moss makes those guys go with his ability to stretch a defense. Without him, the dynamic of the offense changes in a big way.

"It would be a lot easier to defend when he isn't there," said one NFC defensive coordinato Tuesday night.

Yes, Moss is unhappy in New England. So what. His job is to play and as long as he's under contract he has no choice but to play.

The Patriots are dumb to trade him. The Vikings are even dumber trading for him.

If you recall, Favre pushed the Packers brass to acquire Moss when he was with Green Bay. Are his fingerprints on this one? Time will tell.

The way I see it, this is a lose-lose for both teams.

Moss will help the Vikings, but it's clear it's Super Bowl or bust for them now. Anything less is failure. It's all about the now. Favre and Moss together. Whew.

As for the Patriots, they are in rebuilding mode. At 3-1, that doesn't make sense. Do they think their special-teams will get two touchdowns every week?

Then again, Bill Belichick's track record on personnel hasn't been so sparkling lately.

I just don't get this one at all.

Category: NFL
Tags: Randy Moss

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2010 11:04 pm


How is it bad both ways? This is great for the Vikings, bad for the Patriots. Cry
Hopefully the Pat's will get someone who can replace Moss.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 10:24 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

I say lets wait and see. I feel why not get rid of him if your the Patriots weather he is a deep threat or not. Heck he could not get open Monday night, right? or he really is not much of a deep threat to them is he?
I think it was in the works, mabe he wanted out of New England and to finally get the chance to play with Brett. Remember when Brett wanted the Pack to get him from Minnesota, could not balme him back then or now. Lets face it, what quarteback would not want to throw to Moss especially if he did not have a go too deep threat guy.
I say wait and see , time will tell. Definitely will help the Vikes and if Farve retires as he should next year then the next QB there will only be better with a big weapon like Moss.
So lets talk again about this come January and see who was right or wrong.

Since: Oct 6, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2010 10:20 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Wake up, buddy.  This deal makes sense for both teams.  Vikes have already put everything on this season, thats why they sent half the team down south to beg Brett back.  So they may as well finish the deal.  Besides, this year's salary doesn't count against the cap,  & there may not be a season next year, so a 2 year extension isn't such a bad idea.

As for the Pats, it's what they're all about.  They aren't re-building, they're re-loading, on the fly.  Get something for him now, instead of nothing at the end of the season.  Makes good sense.  And it's not writing off the season.  There's a kid named Tate who's pretty quick, and could be a deep threat.  And then there's the V-Jack rumors. 
The Patriots are to the 2000s what the Niners were to the 1980s:  The model of success in the NFL.  Except that its much harder to do now, with free agency & a salary cap.  So I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

Since: Jan 12, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2010 10:08 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

David Patton, David Givens, Troy Brown, Deion Branch.... 

You don't NEED elite receivers to win titles. 

You NEED a good defense.

Now the Patriots have neither.

Good luck with that.

Since: Oct 6, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 10:06 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Moss couldnt get open Monday night against miami, and he's not always double teamed, he showed that he cant beat the jets, or miami, that doesnt include all the other good defenses they will face. Not getting it done againt the top 2 teams in your divison, this early allows NE to drop moss at his best value, as far as minnesota goes, hell draw coverage, but I think Brady was a better match than Favre, the biggest benefits will be Shiancoe, Peterson and then Moss and the recivers, like NE, he might not even be their leading reciever by years end. 2007 was a long time ago, and Brady won 3 Super Bowls without having to throw 30 td's and 4000 yards in a season, that young defense is getting better by the week, Prediction, w/ the Vikes, Moss 78 rec, 1100yds, 10 tds, Favre can throw another 35 td's but he should take a cue from Elway and let a Superback like AP lead the way, then he can finally go out on top. But that wont happen, because unlike Elway, Favre has to have the spotlight on him first.

Since: Sep 19, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2010 9:35 pm

When ignorance becomes arrogance

"The Patriots are dumb to trade him. The Vikings are even dumber trading for him."

Everyone is stupid except for Petie. Kiss my a$$ writer boy. Go back to the altar of Peyton and get back to your worshipping.

Since: Sep 11, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2010 9:04 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Well, I'll agree with Prisco on one thing.  I don't get this at all, either.

Since: Jun 7, 2010
Posted on: October 6, 2010 9:01 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Wrong!  Bad for the Patriots and Good for the Vikings

Great deal for the Vikings.  Obviously they want to win now.  Seriously, how long do you think Farve will be there.  This is it for him, its all or nothing.  So there is no point to wait for the young players to develop.  Honestly how much did they lose from the trade.  A draft pick, please.  I make that deal all day.  Pick is nothing but a crabshot, give me the guy that is proven anyday.  Its not like they trade all draft picks for Moss.

Think about it, they do this move cause they probably have a pretty indication that Sidney Rice wont be back this year.  Even if he did, how long does it take for him to be in game shape, another 3-5 weeks.  By then, they pretty much out of it.

As for the Patriots, unless they going after Vjax, the move is really bad.  There is no way they making this deal and not make a run for VJax.  They are not a Super Bowl team if they don't.  Not with that defense.  Too young and inexperience.

Since: Aug 11, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2010 8:45 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

This is bad for the vikings?  How?  What did they give up from this years team...Nothing.   They gained a sure home run hitter who will strech the field and give the vikings offense balance.

Favre will feel like it's last year seeing randy to throw to.  The vikes needed to do something.  They did not bring back brett to try and do everything they could to improve the team.

Now if they would fire childress!  Just kidding.

The vikes have tons of weapons now.  If rice comes back watch out.

As for the pats their youngsters are growing up quickly.  Tate, hernandez, eldman and welker could still be special.

Don't think the pats are done yet.  Vincent jackson might be hand.

This is a win a win for both teams.  More so the vikes watch out!

Since: Jan 20, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2010 8:25 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

I agree with purple for life.  In addition, Moss (albeit a younger Moss) made a terrible quarterback like Daunte Culpepper into a Probowler (yes Chris Carter, Robert Smith, Jake Reed, and the best O line in the game helped too). 

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