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Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Posted on: October 5, 2010 11:08 pm
Edited on: October 6, 2010 10:01 am

The Minnesota Vikings' trade for Randy Moss means one thing: desperation.

Don't get me wrong. I think Moss can play. I think Moss is still a legitimate deep threat.
But the Vikings have to part with a 2011 third-round pick, and then pay Moss a long-term contract.

That's risky for a receiver who is 33 years old. Does he help this season? Yes. And that's what this is all about.

Brett Favre is in the final year of his career -- or so he says -- and the Vikings have to win now. With Sidney Rice out with an injury, it means they lack a big-play receiver.

Moss is still that, but for how long? It;s not a good move for the long-term viability of the franchise.

From the Patriots end, I ask this: What are you thinking doing this?

The Patriots are 3-1, tied for the AFC East lead, and they don't have a deep threat to replace him. Do they think Wes Welker and Julian
Edelman and any other slot receiver can do what they do without Moss's presence on the field?Moss makes those guys go with his ability to stretch a defense. Without him, the dynamic of the offense changes in a big way.

"It would be a lot easier to defend when he isn't there," said one NFC defensive coordinato Tuesday night.

Yes, Moss is unhappy in New England. So what. His job is to play and as long as he's under contract he has no choice but to play.

The Patriots are dumb to trade him. The Vikings are even dumber trading for him.

If you recall, Favre pushed the Packers brass to acquire Moss when he was with Green Bay. Are his fingerprints on this one? Time will tell.

The way I see it, this is a lose-lose for both teams.

Moss will help the Vikings, but it's clear it's Super Bowl or bust for them now. Anything less is failure. It's all about the now. Favre and Moss together. Whew.

As for the Patriots, they are in rebuilding mode. At 3-1, that doesn't make sense. Do they think their special-teams will get two touchdowns every week?

Then again, Bill Belichick's track record on personnel hasn't been so sparkling lately.

I just don't get this one at all.

Category: NFL
Tags: Randy Moss

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:30 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

   The possibility of Moss throwing a hissy fit is always there, regardless of who he plays for. But the Vikings did not have to give up much to gamble on his happiness. His presence has already brought a different attitude to the locker room. Brett Favre is happier today than he has been all season. The two players have wanted to play with one another for quite some time, and now it finally will happen on Monday night football against another Super Bowl contender. I still say it was a smart gamble for the Vikings, and I am sure the Wilfs will do what they need to in order to insure his happiness. They spend just like the Joneses and Snyders of the league. I'm not promising a Super Bowl win, you always have to play the games because anything can happen in todays NFL, but this move pushes the Vikings up on the list of possible contenders making it a GOOD TRADE!
   On aother note I am completely amused by the posts of jealous Packer fans, please keep them coming! I remember all to well how many cheese heads were drooling over Moss when Favre was lobbying for the Packers to acquire him. Of course we all know he went to the Patriots instead. I wish I could go back in history and pull up some of those blogs now, but I am sure everyone who was around back then remembers them.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:25 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Sit and think (for like two seconds) and understand there IS method to this madness.  Yes, a few things don"t make sense, but I honestly believe Belichick has some kind of scheme behind this,

Not saying it is, but I'm wondering if this isn't a product of Belichick's famed arrogance.  From an outsider's standpoint the Patriots have a young, porous defense, little running threat, and an offense that just lost a key element - Moss's ability to let the rest of the team play 10-on-9 as he's dragging two defenders everywhere he goes.  In the long term, it probably makes sense, and if Moss was going to play half-hearted for the Patriots like he does when he's pouting, it even makes sense this year.  But it seems like a heckuva gamble from an unbiased fan's perspective.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:24 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Favre will not be raising anything in Dallas, except a toast to the teams that got there because the Vikings will not be one of the teams that get to the Super Bowl game in Dallas. My prediction is that Dallas not the Pats will not be there either.

The Pats might have a better chance than the Vikings or Dallas, but I can not see either team there, so your quarterback Brett will be home in Mississippi holding Minnesota hostage once again .

He will not show up for the practice as he has done for the last several seasons.


Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:16 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Smoke and mirrors gentlemen.  Sit and think (for like two seconds) and understand there IS method to this madness.  Yes, a few things don"t make sense, but I honestly believe Belichick has some kind of scheme behind this, and you would have to think Brady had some kind of say in this.  Tom is locked in on this franchise.  I wouldn't doubt any kind of offensive move or transaction isn't brought to his attention before all is said and done.  
Things will work out.  At least I hope so.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:07 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Only a non objective Viking hater like Prisco would be arrogant enough to claim this move doesn't make sense for the Minnesota Vikings.

Not true.  I kind of like the Vikings, but I'm not biased FOR them enough that I don't see the very possible negatives in the deal.  It could blow up in their faces, costing them a 3rd rounder and distraction all season long.  That said, I'm hoping they give Moss a fat, short-term contract that makes him happy enough to actually play hard and he and Favre build an instantly productive connection. 

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:03 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

How can getting the most dominent downfield reciever in football for a third round draft pick be anything but a STEAL?

You must have forgotten how  the last time Moss was unhappy he ran like Refrigerator Perry and caught passes like Anthony Munoz.  Moss's performance all depends on the frame of mind he's in, and right now it isn't good.  Maybe a fat short term contract will change that, but its another step the Vikings will have to do.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 7:00 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

How can aquiring one of the top WR's in the league be a bad thing?  especially when it's only for a 3rd rounder?   The guy is only 33,  he's still a top 5 WR in the league.  That can't be bad.   If you pay him and keep him happy he produces.  Yes he's got an attitude but when motivated he's unstopable. 

Seems like you answered your own question.  The acquisition can be a bad thing when you're getting an unhappy Randy Moss.  Everyone has seen what a pouting Moss is like and it's not one of the top WRs in the league.  Its barely a marginal starter, based on production.  No one cares about "attitude" as long as Moss is actually focused on playing.  When he's not, he's garbage, which is why Oakland punted him for a fourth rounder. 

The risk here is the money.  Favre got paid.  Moss wants to get paid.  If they don't pay him, and do it immediately, they stand to have pouty, garbage Moss, not quality deep threat Moss.  And if they do pay a 33 year old deep threat and give him several years, they're very likely not going to have to money to keep Sidney Rice around.  And in 2 years, I'd much rather have Rice on my roster than a 35 year old former deep threat.  I realize Moss has been a unique talent his entire life, but I still wonder how many receivers who made their living on deep routes remained viable, consistent threats into their mid-thirties?  Guys like Cliff Branch and Stanley Morgan had their last big years at 31.  Jerry Rice's YPC dropped 3 yards per after 34, but he was always more of a crossing pattern, WCO guy than a guy like Moss, who has made his entire career by going deep. 

The only way I see Minnesota benefitting from this move is if they overpay Moss for a short-term contract.

New England did what New England always does.  I think this move will quickly expose Wes Welker as an average receiver, but that doesn't mean the Patriots can win with average receivers.  People like to point to the three Super Bowl wins without Moss, but it seems like they're ignoring the fact that unlike those years, they don't have a strong running game.

Since: Aug 11, 2009
Posted on: October 6, 2010 6:53 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

How can getting the most dominent downfield reciever in football for a third round draft pick be anything but a STEAL?  Yes, he takes downs off etc, but come on now, for the last three years (1 without tom brady) he averaged 83 receptions, 1255yds and 13tds per year!  He's 6'4" and can run like lightening and make catches that no one else can make.  The numbers speak for themselves.....

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2010 6:51 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Actually I am really glad Prisco does not like the trade. He has shown to be so biased against Favre/MN, he cannot write anything logical and repeatedly his opinion is so off base, it actually speaks well of something if he criticizes it. I thought is was a great trade for the Vikes and think even more of it now.

Since: Jan 3, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2010 6:50 pm

Trading Moss: Bad both ways

Just another desperation move by the Vikings to get a new stadium. No doubt Moss is a temporary improvement over the bunch of clowns they have now at wide receiver, but the Vikes biggest problem is still their offensive line, and they are 1-2 despite playing nobody of caliber. I know, I know, the Packers are in the same boat. But winning the NFC North is no longer good enough for the Vikings, yet they are not good enough to compete with the Ravens, Patriots, Steelers and possibly even Atlanta. The window for the Vikes is already shut, yet the fans keep setting themselves up for disappointment time and again.

Until this team gets a good coach, they are going nowhere.

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